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Old 07-01-2007, 01:48 AM
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Time for Mr Gore to answer the critics, before You buy those Live Earth tickets! Now see...that was nice
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Timm, if you want to perceived as anything more than an rabid partisan with an ax to grind, you need to post articles with less of an obvious idealogical bent. Here's some information on the author (who I had never heard of; this took me ten seconds to find on Google: )

<<This is an op/ed piece by James M. Taylor. As it states at the bottom of the article, 'James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.' The Heartland Institute is a well known anti-global warming group that supports big oil (including Exxon) and the tobacco industry.

The Heartland Institute created a website in the Spring of 2007, www.globalwarmingheartland.org, which asserts there is no scientific consensus on global warming and features a list of experts and a list of like-minded think tanks, many of whom have received funding from ExxonMobil and other polluters. The Heartland Institute networks heavily with other conservative policy organizations, and is part of the State Policy Network, a member of the Cooler Heads Coalition (as of 4/04), and co-sponsored the 2001 Fly In for Freedom with the Wise Use umbrella group, Alliance for America. Heartland also co-sponsored a New York state Conference on Property Rights, hosted by the Property Rights Foundation of America. The Institute puts out several publications, including "Environment & Climate News" which frequently features anti-environmentalist and climate skeptic writing. They also published "Earth Day '96," a compilation of articles on environmental topics. The publication, distributed on college campuses, featured "Adventures in the Ozone Layer" by S. Fred Singer, and "the Cold Facts on Global Warming" by Sallie Baliunas. The articles denied the serious nature of ozone depletion and global warming. Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as Heartland's Government Relations Advisor, according to Heartland's 2005 IRS Form 990, pg. 15. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocument...0295fbb2-9.pdf The Heartland Institute formerly sponsored and hosted www.climatesearch.org, a web page ostensibly dedicated to objective research on global warming, but at the same time presenting heavily biased research by organizations such as the American Petroleum Institute as an FAQ section.>>

So, an anti-global warming piece comes out from a guy whose job is supported by Exxon? I'm not saying there's a bias there, but...

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Timm, if you want to perceived as anything more than an rabid partisan with an ax to grind, you need to post articles with less of an obvious idealogical bent. Here's some information on the author (who I had never heard of; this took me ten seconds to find on Google: )

<<This is an op/ed piece by James M. Taylor. As it states at the bottom of the article, 'James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.' The Heartland Institute is a well known anti-global warming group that supports big oil (including Exxon) and the tobacco industry.

The Heartland Institute created a website in the Spring of 2007, www.globalwarmingheartland.org, which asserts there is no scientific consensus on global warming and features a list of experts and a list of like-minded think tanks, many of whom have received funding from ExxonMobil and other polluters. The Heartland Institute networks heavily with other conservative policy organizations, and is part of the State Policy Network, a member of the Cooler Heads Coalition (as of 4/04), and co-sponsored the 2001 Fly In for Freedom with the Wise Use umbrella group, Alliance for America. Heartland also co-sponsored a New York state Conference on Property Rights, hosted by the Property Rights Foundation of America. The Institute puts out several publications, including "Environment & Climate News" which frequently features anti-environmentalist and climate skeptic writing. They also published "Earth Day '96," a compilation of articles on environmental topics. The publication, distributed on college campuses, featured "Adventures in the Ozone Layer" by S. Fred Singer, and "the Cold Facts on Global Warming" by Sallie Baliunas. The articles denied the serious nature of ozone depletion and global warming. Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as Heartland's Government Relations Advisor, according to Heartland's 2005 IRS Form 990, pg. 15. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocument...0295fbb2-9.pdf The Heartland Institute formerly sponsored and hosted www.climatesearch.org, a web page ostensibly dedicated to objective research on global warming, but at the same time presenting heavily biased research by organizations such as the American Petroleum Institute as an FAQ section.>>

So, an anti-global warming piece comes out from a guy whose job is supported by Exxon? I'm not saying there's a bias there, but...

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how amusing!
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Forecaster Blasts Gore on Global Warming


6 Apr 07 - "A top hurricane forecaster called Al Gore "a gross alarmist" Friday for making an Oscar-winning documentary about global warming.

"He's one of these guys that preaches the end of the world type of things. I think he's doing a great disservice and he doesn't know what he's talking about," Dr. William Gray said in an interview with The Associated Press at the National Hurricane Conference in New Orleans, where he delivered the closing speech.

"Gray, an emeritus professor at the atmospheric science department at Colorado State University, has long railed against the theory that heat-trapping gases generated by human activity are causing the world to warm.

Gray, 77, is known as "America's most reliable hurricane forecaster."

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http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

Time for Mr Gore to answer the critics, before You buy those Live Earth tickets! Now see...that was nice
Wow Timm!
Look at what your link created! All this Sunday morning reading is head spinning, and "truth" spinning.
Global warming...believe whatever you want. For sure it's Gore's fault for calling attention to it. Why did the signators of the Kyoto accord sign?
Hmmm, I suppose there's no problem with ozone over Antarctica either, naw, there's no such thing, no PCB's. It's an "invention" of the liberals.
And look at how good those bald eagles are doing! DDT was really not the problem. It was all the popcorn they were eating. So, now that we've gotten the popcorn under control, yup! They are no longer endangered or threatened.
So, have the past two years been warmer than all the previous hundred?
Does excessive CO2 in the atmosphere create a confining "blanket" for trapping heat?
If so, it must be completely Gore's fault for contributing to it. Or calling attention to it. Hmmm...what was the Nobel prize for?
And since I took the time to read your stuff, which I truly thank you for cause I had a few giggles, such entertainment...read this:
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot...impeached.html
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Wow Timm!
Look at what your link created! All this Sunday morning reading is head spinning, and "truth" spinning.
Global warming...believe whatever you want. For sure it's Gore's fault for calling attention to it. Why did the signators of the Kyoto accord sign?
Hmmm, I suppose there's no problem with ozone over Antarctica either, naw, there's no such thing, no PCB's. It's an "invention" of the liberals.
And look at how good those bald eagles are doing! DDT was really not the problem. It was all the popcorn they were eating. So, now that we've gotten the popcorn under control, yup! They are no longer endangered or threatened.
So, have the past two years been warmer than all the previous hundred?
Does excessive CO2 in the atmosphere create a confining "blanket" for trapping heat?
If so, it must be completely Gore's fault for contributing to it. Or calling attention to it. Hmmm...what was the Nobel prize for?
And since I took the time to read your stuff, which I truly thank you for cause I had a few giggles, such entertainment...read this:
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot...impeached.html
gore was nominated for the nobel, he hasn't won it. of course rush limbaugh was also nominated, which just goes to show how meaningful that award must be!


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Yes the earth has increased .3 - .5 degrees in the last 100 years, but absolutely 0 in the last 40 years.

that stat tho might need some checking, not sure how valid the source is...
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

Time for Mr Gore to answer the critics, before You buy those Live Earth tickets! Now see...that was nice
Timm,
Here's your answer in Gore's words. Sorry I took it off topic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/op...ewanted=1&_r=1

ps, I haven't vetted his claims.
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