The Mother Goose Stakes

Sightseek · #1 06-28-2007, 02:50 PM

Mother Goose S. - Grade: 1
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:43 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Sex: Fillies
Purse: $250,000
Distance: One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt

Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Octave (KY) 3 Filly 121 John R. Velazquez
2 Bold Assurance (KY) 3 Filly 121 Garrett K. Gomez
3 Lady Joanne (KY) 3 Filly 121 Calvin H. Borel
4 Boca Grande (KY) 3 Filly 121 Javier Castellano

Mortimer · #2 06-28-2007, 02:51 PM

philcski · #3 06-28-2007, 02:57 PM

...Yet another reason why Pletcher having ALL the top fillies isn't a good thing. Gross.

blackthroatedwind · #4 06-28-2007, 02:59 PM

Where the hell are the horses?

Sightseek · #5 06-28-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Where the hell are the horses?

Now is the time to break out that horse suit!

declansharbor · #6 06-28-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Where the hell are the horses?

Tell me about it. This is a joke. A Grade 1 with a 250k purse should have attracted more. Is there any logic behind giving up an opportunity to grab some 2nd or 3rd place purse money if you have a healthy filly with some talent?

Sightseek · #7 06-28-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands

!!

I was thinking more along the lines of.....

THUD!

Mortimer · #8 06-28-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

I was thinking more along the lines of.....

THUD!

OOOOOOOOOO!

Antitrust32 · #9 06-28-2007, 03:09 PM

enter Sumwon, she can get third in a grade one possibly!

Cajungator26 · #10 06-28-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

enter Sumwon, she can get third in a grade one possibly!

That's actually a good idea.

Storm Cadet · #11 06-28-2007, 03:13 PM

Well this gives me one reason to now stay home Saturday...if the Suburban comes up like this its adios Belmont!

HELLO Monmouth Park.

ddthetide · #12 06-28-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

enter Sumwon, she can get third in a grade one possibly!

glad you beat me to it. especially after watching that monmouth race saturday.

NoLuvForPletch · #13 06-28-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Mother Goose S. - Grade: 1
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:43 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Sex: Fillies
Purse: $250,000
Distance: One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Dirt

Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Octave (KY) 3 Filly 121 John R. Velazquez
2 Bold Assurance (KY) 3 Filly 121 Garrett K. Gomez
3 Lady Joanne (KY) 3 Filly 121 Calvin H. Borel
4 Boca Grande (KY) 3 Filly 121 Javier Castellano

They need to start lowing the Grade in some of these races. This is an OUTRAGE! A Grade 1 race with four horses? What is this California? There are 107 Grade 1 races, and apparently that is way too many opportunities for these guys to get Grade 1 type. Pathetic.

Cannon Shell · #14 06-28-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

They need to start lowing the Grade in some of these races. This is an OUTRAGE! A Grade 1 race with four horses? What is this California? There are 107 Grade 1 races, and apparently that is way too many opportunities for these guys to get Grade 1 type. Pathetic.

And lowering the grade would accomplish....???

Maybe if a handful of barns didn't control 90% of the quality horses in NY then you might see more competitive races.

blackthroatedwind · #15 06-28-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And lowering the grade would accomplish....???

Maybe if a handful of barns didn't control 90% of the quality horses in NY then you might see more competitive races.

The problem isn't the Grade for the Mother Goose, per se, but the overabundance of opportunities for 3YOs to earn black type. However, there aren't that many Grade 1s and I simply can't understand how this is all we get for this race.....three decent Graded Stakes horses and a borderline claimer.

Now, obviously I understand Todd gets way too many of the good horses, and this has a lot to do with this pathetic race, but first of all why can't he run more than one ( certainly owners aren't happy to concede the race to the mediocre Octave ) and where the hell are the other horses? Did nobody know they were running the Mother Goose this year?

blackthroatedwind · #16 06-28-2007, 04:30 PM

I bet the connections of High Heels wish they ran here instead of the useless turf experiment at Churchill. Of course, they could have wheeled her back here. And, why wouldn't Cot Campbell insist that Cotton Blossom returned for this race? She had three weeks since her last.

High Again chose the Iowa Oaks instead of staying home for this race. Makes sense. I hope she runs last in Iowa.

Sightseek · #17 06-28-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I bet the connections of High Heels wish they ran here instead of the useless turf experiment at Churchill. Of course, they could have wheeled her back here. And, why wouldn't Cot Campbell insist that Cotton Blossom returned for this race? She had three weeks since her last.

High Again chose the Iowa Oaks instead of staying home for this race. Makes sense. I hope she runs last in Iowa.

Cotton Blossom is going to Delaware.

Pretty crazy the oaks had so many. The La Troienne had a field of about 10 the next day, which wasn't spectacular in merit, but either are these fillies.

philcski · #18 06-28-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The problem isn't the Grade for the Mother Goose, per se, but the overabundance of opportunities for 3YOs to earn black type. However, there aren't that many Grade 1s and I simply can't understand how this is all we get for this race.....three decent Graded Stakes horses and a borderline claimer.

Now, obviously I understand Todd gets way too many of the good horses, and this has a lot to do with this pathetic race, but first of all why can't he run more than one ( certainly owners aren't happy to concede the race to the mediocre Octave ) and where the hell are the other horses? Did nobody know they were running the Mother Goose this year?

Because Panty Raid sucks, right? She can't beat Octave.

blackthroatedwind · #19 06-28-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Because Panty Raid sucks, right? She can't beat Octave.

Doesn't Panty Raid have similar ownership to Octave? In that case it's somewhat understandable that she went out West ( where I also hope she runs ninth ).

If she has different owners whe should definitely be in here. As bad as she is she is not necessarily worse than Boca Grande.

Cannon Shell · #20 06-28-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The problem isn't the Grade for the Mother Goose, per se, but the overabundance of opportunities for 3YOs to earn black type. However, there aren't that many Grade 1s and I simply can't understand how this is all we get for this race.....three decent Graded Stakes horses and a borderline claimer.

Now, obviously I understand Todd gets way too many of the good horses, and this has a lot to do with this pathetic race, but first of all why can't he run more than one ( certainly owners aren't happy to concede the race to the mediocre Octave ) and where the hell are the other horses? Did nobody know they were running the Mother Goose this year?

You would think that there would be a lot of owners that think like you are but it seems they are brainwashed. Funny how everybody in the breeding business talks about Graded Stakes placings and yet grade 1 races on both coasts are routinely 5 (or worse) horse fields.

I rarely think that the Europeans do much better than us but the way they design the stakes schedule of races is far superior to our haphazard, everytrack for themselves way.