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Old 04-12-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Stormello - switching tactics

Story is in bloodhorse. But I do hope the horser arrives in Louisville before May 25th as the article states.

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38408
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:46 PM
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Story is in bloodhorse. But I do hope the horser arrives in Louisville before May 25th as the article states.

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38408

does it even matter, i honestly think he peaked in the fountain of youth................. i see a keyed entry like performance from him in the derby........
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:49 PM
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does it even matter, i honestly think he peaked in the fountain of youth................. i see a keyed entry like performance from him in the derby........
You know, I dont know what to expect anymore. I cant see this horse winning, but I couldnt see Giacomo, Funny Cide or War Emblem winning either so what do I know.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:24 AM
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does it even matter, i honestly think he peaked in the fountain of youth................. i see a keyed entry like performance from him in the derby........
I wonder why they even bother to run the races...all they need to do is to have you put together (in advance) the results charts and a whole lot of effort can be saved...
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:37 AM
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I wonder why they even bother to run the races...all they need to do is to have you put together (in advance) the results charts and a whole lot of effort can be saved...
In this case he is right.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:23 AM
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Certainly gutty in the FOY.

I'll add to the above - who knows this year. I'm as confused as ever trying to look at the Derby.

It took me until seeing "The Works" last year on TVG to jump on the Barbaro bandwagon, so there no rush. But still looks like some sort of puzzle May 5th.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:36 AM
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I wonder why they even bother to run the races...all they need to do is to have you put together (in advance) the results charts and a whole lot of effort can be saved...
Do we really need to jump on and criticize EVERY single thing this kid posts? Even I am starting to get tired of it.
Saying that he sees a "Keyed Entry like performance" from Stormello in the Derby sounds reasonable to me. The horse simply doesn't belong in a G1 race at 10f.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:42 AM
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Do we really need to jump on and criticize EVERY single thing this kid posts? Even I am starting to get tired of it.
Nope, I like to save my selective outrage for the really juicy ones
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:55 AM
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I have no idea anymore. I don't know how to handicap and i'm really sick of figuring out which trainer has the magic fairy dust. It's tiresome and isn't fun.

I'm counting the days until opening week of the NFL. At least i've got a fighting chance with that.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:54 PM
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If he finishes the derby in 2:13 then he will finish last. What is Currin trying to do? Teach this horse how to rate?? I wont bet on horses who are experimenting on how to rate, especialy for THE DERBY.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:04 AM
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You know I have no clue. The lead up to the Derby is all out of whack this year. No Biz adding blinkers and cotton balls, Quay having an 8 week layoff, Street Sense and Great Hunter only two preps, Scat Daddy a 5 week layoff, Curlin didnt race as a two year old, Stormello trying to learn how to rate, Hard Spun a 6 week layoff....who knows what will happen come Derby day. Right now I think Any Given Saturday is looking good. I remember when Thunder Gulch threw in a clunker in the Bluegrass and then won the Derby at 25-1.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:36 AM
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You know I have no clue. The lead up to the Derby is all out of whack this year. No Biz adding blinkers and cotton balls, Quay having an 8 week layoff, Street Sense and Great Hunter only two preps, Scat Daddy a 5 week layoff, Curlin didnt race as a two year old, Stormello trying to learn how to rate, Hard Spun a 6 week layoff....who knows what will happen come Derby day. Right now I think Any Given Saturday is looking good. I remember when Thunder Gulch threw in a clunker in the Bluegrass and then won the Derby at 25-1.
I agree. this year and last seem to be getting so far from tradition... it'll be a wonder if anyone can win it. I don't know if Any Given Saturday will have enough earnings to make the Derby They thought they had a chance to pick up money in NY but it didn't happen.

However, I do believe that Stormello has excuses

Don't hold me to it but I think Stormello can still get the lead an still go a long long way
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:23 AM
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You know I have no clue. The lead up to the Derby is all out of whack this year. No Biz adding blinkers and cotton balls, Quay having an 8 week layoff, Street Sense and Great Hunter only two preps, Scat Daddy a 5 week layoff, Curlin didnt race as a two year old, Stormello trying to learn how to rate, Hard Spun a 6 week layoff....who knows what will happen come Derby day. Right now I think Any Given Saturday is looking good. I remember when Thunder Gulch threw in a clunker in the Bluegrass and then won the Derby at 25-1.
Bluegrass Cat flew off of everyone's radar last year after getting trounced by Sinister Minister in the Bluegrass Stakes...I mean, he looked pretty bad chasing after SM...He came back to surprise the hell out of me in the Derby..
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:29 AM
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Bluegrass Cat flew off of everyone's radar last year after getting trounced by Sinister Minister in the Bluegrass Stakes...I mean, he looked pretty bad chasing after SM...He came back to surprise the hell out of me in the Derby..
Don't even remind me... he totally screwed up my tri.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:34 AM
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Bluegrass Cat flew off of everyone's radar last year after getting trounced by Sinister Minister in the Bluegrass Stakes...I mean, he looked pretty bad chasing after SM...He came back to surprise the hell out of me in the Derby..
Last year, I didn't toss Bluegrass Cat because of the Blue Grass, but because I thought he hadn't improved from 2 to 3 and I figured that a Private Vow-like performance would have been in store.

I think that Any Given Saturday is going to take his fair share of money, and while I don't love love love him in the top spot, if the price is right I'll cover him with a win bet while using his number liberally in the exotics.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:16 PM
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The thing I remember about BC wasn't just the Bluegrass, because that can be forgiven, especially on a weird track like Keeneland. But he also looked terrible in his workouts leading up to the Derby. I was sure he was over the top, and so was just about everyone else.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:26 PM
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The thing I remember about BC wasn't just the Bluegrass, because that can be forgiven, especially on a weird track like Keeneland. But he also looked terrible in his workouts leading up to the Derby. I was sure he was over the top, and so was just about everyone else.
Actually BC had good workouts leading up the Derby. He lost a shoe in the Tampa Bay Derby, got trounced by SM in the Bluegrass. His works on 4/2 and 4/9 before the Bluegrass were very very good. He only worked once before the Derby on 4/29 and it was a maintenance work. I saw him the entire week last year and he looked good. I had him to win and on bottom of the exacta. But didnt have Barbaro.
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