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Old 03-05-2007, 11:09 AM
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She actually plays well to the conservatives that like the anorexic look and to the homo-phobes. Since she's unable to defend the actions of the administration she loves so much (now 29%, less than Nixon during Watergate), at least she's good at name calling.
For sure, Edwards is laughing, as am I. Pathetic Ann, pathetic. Maybe a centerfold spread in the New Republic will help you regain your "credibility".
NAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/153/150/

Ann....you'd be funny if you weren't SO sad.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:17 AM
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A bit more about her "spread". Go wide Annie!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/ope...itches_pos.htm
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A bit more about her "spread". Go wide Annie!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/ope...itches_pos.htm

I admit that she's far far over the line but as your original link pointed out...there are folks like Al Franken (sp?) on the left who are just as bad. I don't think we'll ever again witness a political contest that focuses on issues rather than people...and that's the sad thing, not the rantings of an individual!
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:34 AM
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I admit that she's far far over the line but as your original link pointed out...there are folks like Al Franken (sp?) on the left who are just as bad. I don't think we'll ever again witness a political contest that focuses on issues rather than people...and that's the sad thing, not the rantings of an individual!
SF, You might be correct in your assessment.
I know I didn't put the words into her mouth, nor did I choose to speak to the audience where it was played.
To me, it is indeed sad when intelligent debate goes to "name calling", but what's to be expected when current policies are indefensible?
I'm ready for the impeachment proceedings to begin, then the war crimes trials. Leave out Al Franken...let's hold the real culprits to accountability.
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SF, You might be correct in your assessment.
I know I didn't put the words into her mouth, nor did I choose to speak to the audience where it was played.
To me, it is indeed sad when intelligent debate goes to "name calling", but what's to be expected when current policies are indefensible?
I'm ready for the impeachment proceedings to begin, then the war crimes trials. Leave out Al Franken...let's hold the real culprits to accountability.
The only difference between guys like Al and the Bush folks is that one is in power, the other isn't!
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:42 AM
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SF,
Here's a link to Tom's blog. I think more like him than I do Annie.
http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com/
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:55 AM
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Here's a link to Tom's blog. I think more like him than I do Annie.
http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com/
Same type of rhetoric...disgusting! The worst thing that could happen to this country would be the prosecution of a President for anything remotely political, Nixon broke the criminal law of this country and he was rightly pardoned...talk of criminal action against Bush is only a small step above talk of assassination...not a road civilized folks in a democracy should ever travel...this is the rhetoric of a third world country where the basic concepts of freedom are new and misunderstood and an affront to this great nation...shameful!!
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I admit that she's far far over the line but as your original link pointed out...there are folks like Al Franken (sp?) on the left who are just as bad. I don't think we'll ever again witness a political contest that focuses on issues rather than people...and that's the sad thing, not the rantings of an individual!
Somer, I don't think Franken ever advocated murdering the leaders of soverign nations and converting their leaders forcibly to Christianity. If you would be so kind, please find specifics of things he's said that you find particularly egregious and I'll be happy to find egregious comments by Coulter and you can let me know which you think is worse. I think you'll find it hard to find anything he's said that compares with what comes out of her mouth. Which, I'm sure, is why she gets more press. Americans love a freak show.
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Somer, I don't think Franken ever advocated murdering the leaders of soverign nations and converting their leaders forcibly to Christianity. If you would be so kind, please find specifics of things he's said that you find particularly egregious and I'll be happy to find egregious comments by Coulter and you can let me know which you think is worse. I think you'll find it hard to find anything he's said that compares with what comes out of her mouth. Which, I'm sure, is why she gets more press. Americans love a freak show.
Franken is a dope and I think it's great he's running for senator, afterall he won't have time to act anymore which is a plus. I love actors they think they know better than the american public, over inflated feeling of self worth. Yeah, you're on TV, in movies, or the theatre....who really gives a $#@ what you think.

Now Mahr didn't advocate murder just agreed if Cheney was dead it'd be a good thing.

Coulter is a dope too....I read this board and it's so evident why nothing ever gets done. It's more important being correct than making the world better. No different than the people on here.
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Franken is a dope and I think it's great he's running for senator, afterall he won't have time to act anymore which is a plus. I love actors they think they know better than the american public, over inflated feeling of self worth. Yeah, you're on TV, in movies, or the theatre....who really gives a $#@ what you think.

Now Mahr didn't advocate murder just agreed if Cheney was dead it'd be a good thing.

Coulter is a dope too....I read this board and it's so evident why nothing ever gets done. It's more important being correct than making the world better. No different than the people on here.
Franken's a writer, not an actor. A comedian, too, but I'd mostly classify him as a writer. I think he's really smart.

Though I don't think the film and TV arts missed Reagan or Gopher all that much. Glad Clint came back, though.

I don't know, Dr. Fager-- I enjoyed reading Somer and DTS's dialogue in this thread. Yes, often people get locked into "I must win" but I often see discussions go in directions I wouldn't expect here. I like to think of the OT board as a 21st century version of the 19th century salon.
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Somer, I don't think Franken ever advocated murdering the leaders of soverign nations and converting their leaders forcibly to Christianity. If you would be so kind, please find specifics of things he's said that you find particularly egregious and I'll be happy to find egregious comments by Coulter and you can let me know which you think is worse. I think you'll find it hard to find anything he's said that compares with what comes out of her mouth. Which, I'm sure, is why she gets more press. Americans love a freak show.

I think you are missing my point....folks on both sides routinely are engaging in what I consider hate speech and personal attacks, I'm not sure what could be gained by judging who is "the worst"...it's all bad...shameful and dangerous! In the 50's...if you disagreed with someone, you accused them of being a Communist and lives were destroyed, Dr King was called all sorts of names and his sex life the subject of J Edgar Hoover's interest (which, considering JEH's lifestyle...well, you know), Malcolm X was called a "terrorist" by mainstream media....go back further in history and folks were tortured and murdered cause someone called them a "witch"...the list is long and all of history contains examples of this folly...rather than debate differences and respect same, attack and accuse....worked for Hitler, Pol Pot and apparently the leaders of Sudan and now Iraq. This nation is becoming more divided every day and the rhetoric more and more vicious...there's a storm coming!!!
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I think you are missing my point....folks on both sides routinely are engaging in what I consider hate speech and personal attacks, I'm not sure what could be gained by judging who is "the worst"...it's all bad...shameful and dangerous! In the 50's...if you disagreed with someone, you accused them of being a Communist and lives were destroyed, Dr King was called all sorts of names and his sex life the subject of J Edgar Hoover's interest (which, considering JEH's lifestyle...well, you know), Malcolm X was called a "terrorist" by mainstream media....go back further in history and folks were tortured and murdered cause someone called them a "witch"...the list is long and all of history contains examples of this folly...rather than debate differences and respect same, attack and accuse....worked for Hitler, Pol Pot and apparently the leaders of Sudan and now Iraq. This nation is becoming more divided every day and the rhetoric more and more vicious...there's a storm coming!!!
Somer, I applaud and admire your passion for a kinder world, but I get tired of the hateful, awful, bigoted things flung around by the likes of Coulter and Limbaugh getting dismissed with, "Oh, liberals are just as bad." Because I really don't believe they are-- I don't hear anything coming out of leading liberal commentators that rivals the filth that Coulter spews. And it's probably why she makes more money, because, as I said, America loves a freak show. If you can find things from liberal commentators on the level of Coulter or Limbaugh that equals the things she's said, please post it. (Not the crazy blogger with an audience of six- we'll be here until the end of time if we start doing that). Otherwise, I think Coulter occupies a very special place in the "Making money by promoting hatred" Department.

Regarding the attacks on "Communists" and Martin Luther King-- was it liberals or conservatives that led those movements? Your examples aren't helping the "liberals are just as bad" argument.

Somer, believe it or not, political discourse has been this ugly in the US before-- check out the late 1800's. Whenever the divide between rich and poor gets great, the discourse gets uglier, because the haves must figure out a way to keep the have-nots voting for them. And there's nothing like morality and personal attacks to get people to vote against their own economic interests. From the NYTimes (I'll post the link, too), about the AMT:

<<Meanwhile the stated goal of the original tax is not being met under the successor tax enacted 21 years ago. A far greater number of well-off families still pay only small amounts of tax. More than 41,000 taxpayers with incomes of $200,000 or more in 2003, the last year for which figures are available, paid less than 10 percent of their income in individual income taxes. And the number of untaxed high-income families — once 155 — grew to 2,824.>>

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/we...ew&oref=slogin

And yet, people on this board claim the wealthy are currently "taking it on the chin" and continute to vote for policies that keep the wealthy paying less tax than I do. Go figure.

Hugs to you for your always thought-provoking, kind posts.
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