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Old 06-20-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default ml odds for colonial cup

9th (5:40)
Colonial Turf Cup S.
Distance: 1 3/16 Miles Surface: Outer turf Open Age: 3 Year Olds Stakes
Purse $1,000,000.
Prg.# PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
Hunting Print SCRATCHED 0 0
Sir Classic Chris SCRATCHED 0 0
Proudinsky (GER) SCRATCHED 0 0
1 1 Showing Up Velasquez C Tagg Barclay 120 0 L 6-1
2 2 Stream Cat Leparoux J R Biancone Patrick L 120 0 7-2
3 3 International Cat Tejera E A Abreu Reynaldo 116 0 L 30-1
4 4 Outperformance Castellano J J Violette Richard A Jr 118 0 L 10-1
5 5 Roman Dynasty Luzzi M J Pletcher Todd A 116 0 L 8-1
6 6 Prime Diamond Dominguez R A Sciacca Gary 116 0 L 30-1
7 7 Lewis Michael Guidry M Catalano Wayne M 116 0 L 15-1
8 8 Rock Lobster Rocco J S Jr Dickinson Michael W 116 0 L 15-1
9 9 Unbridled Behavior Guidry M Bailes W Robert 116 0 L 20-1
10 10 Can't Beat It Castro E Wolfson Martin D 116 0 L 20-1
11 11 Yate's Black Cat Douglas R R Romans Dale 116 0 L 15-1
12 12 Chin High Kaenel K Pessin Neil L 120 0 L 20-1
13 13 Go Between Gomez G K Mott William I 118 0 L 4-1
14 14 Kip Deville Kaenel K Dutrow Richard E Jr 116 0 L 9-2


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Old 06-20-2006, 01:17 PM
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6-1 on Showing Up. Is this guy smoking something? I would love to see it, but I am thinking 7-2 at best.
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Old 06-20-2006, 01:19 PM
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6-1 on Showing Up. Is this guy smoking something? I would love to see it, but I am thinking 7-2 at best.

6-1 morning line is fair considering he's never raced on the turf.. but you're right, he'll never go off at odds that high.
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Old 06-20-2006, 01:25 PM
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6-1 morning line is fair considering he's never raced on the turf.. but you're right, he'll never go off at odds that high.
He is the only horse the average person has even heard of. People always bet Kentucky Derby horses, especially when they carry the same silks as Barbaro. I also know of someone making a very large bet on him, so unless the pools are really big, which I doubt, he is likely to be 3-1 or shorter.
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:28 PM
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Here are my odds....

1 1 Showing Up Velasquez C Tagg Barclay 120 0 L 2-1
2 2 Stream Cat Leparoux J R Biancone Patrick L 120 0 5-2
3 3 International Cat Tejera E A Abreu Reynaldo 116 0 L 50-1
4 4 Outperformance Castellano J J Violette Richard A Jr 118 0 L 15-1
5 5 Roman Dynasty Luzzi M J Pletcher Todd A 116 0 L 12-1
6 6 Prime Diamond Dominguez R A Sciacca Gary 116 0 L 75-1
7 7 Lewis Michael Guidry M Catalano Wayne M 116 0 L 12-1
8 8 Rock Lobster Rocco J S Jr Dickinson Michael W 116 0 L 8-1
9 9 Unbridled Behavior Guidry M Bailes W Robert 116 0 L 30-1
10 10 Can't Beat It Castro E Wolfson Martin D 116 0 L 20-1
11 11 Yate's Black Cat Douglas R R Romans Dale 116 0 L 10-1
12 12 Chin High Kaenel K Pessin Neil L 120 0 L 30-1
13 13 Go Between Gomez G K Mott William I 118 0 L 4-1
14 14 Kip Deville Kaenel K Dutrow Richard E Jr 116 0 L 6-1
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:31 PM
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Here are my odds....

1 1 Showing Up Velasquez C Tagg Barclay 120 0 L 2-1
2 2 Stream Cat Leparoux J R Biancone Patrick L 120 0 5-2
3 3 International Cat Tejera E A Abreu Reynaldo 116 0 L 50-1
4 4 Outperformance Castellano J J Violette Richard A Jr 118 0 L 15-1
5 5 Roman Dynasty Luzzi M J Pletcher Todd A 116 0 L 12-1
6 6 Prime Diamond Dominguez R A Sciacca Gary 116 0 L 75-1
7 7 Lewis Michael Guidry M Catalano Wayne M 116 0 L 12-1
8 8 Rock Lobster Rocco J S Jr Dickinson Michael W 116 0 L 8-1
9 9 Unbridled Behavior Guidry M Bailes W Robert 116 0 L 30-1
10 10 Can't Beat It Castro E Wolfson Martin D 116 0 L 20-1
11 11 Yate's Black Cat Douglas R R Romans Dale 116 0 L 10-1
12 12 Chin High Kaenel K Pessin Neil L 120 0 L 30-1
13 13 Go Between Gomez G K Mott William I 118 0 L 4-1
14 14 Kip Deville Kaenel K Dutrow Richard E Jr 116 0 L 6-1
That looks more like what we will see. I think Stream Cat, Showing Up and Motts horse are likely to all be around 3-1. You do have the luxury of putting in 75-1 and 50-1 shots, something the guy who set the ML really can't do without upsetting owners/trainers. I think Rock Lobster should be the 4th choice and KD the 5th, but they will overbet Dutrow.
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:29 PM
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Showing Up's odds will drop like a rock from 6/1. People are going to see the "KyDerby(G1)2000k" and "6th" in his past performances and be all over him. This race is absolutely wide open!!!
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:33 PM
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Showing Up's odds will drop like a rock from 6/1. People are going to see the "KyDerby(G1)2000k" and "6th" in his past performances and be all over him. This race is absolutely wide open!!!
I think the Barbaro connection will get a ton of money on him too. The Jacksons are going to the race and you know Barbaro and the Jacksons will be all over the local tv and newspapers. I hope their horse runs a big one for them, although I know for a fact they were rooting a little more for Barbaro in the derby. I guess a homebred always gets a little extra rooting from the owners, although they knew all spring that Barbaro was the better of the two.
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Old 06-21-2006, 08:47 AM
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