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05-06-2007, 06:50 AM
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The worst pedigree wins the Derby
So much for that angle, LOL. Another horse who could care less where he came from.
Just wisper in his ear, See that finish line kid, run your azz off until you cross the line OK Yes sir EOM 
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05-06-2007, 06:55 AM
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Says who? I thought he had a great pedigree for the Derby... not sure what you're talking about?
8-1-12-0-1 (22) DI = 2.14 CD = 0.68
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05-06-2007, 07:08 AM
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Young Street Cry appears to be a solid source of stamina on dirt. Many have rated SS as lacking because his sire is yet untested. Remember who Street Cry is: He was considered "the" colt at two, most likley to succeed etc until he was sent to Dubai to prep for the Derby. He missed most of his 3yo season and returned to beat Sahkee in the DWC at 4, at 10f on dirt. His sire Machiavellian sired Almutawakel who also won the DWC.
SS may get more speed from his female family but like Unbridled, Quiet American and others, Street Cry is a stamina influence from a speedy sireline.
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05-06-2007, 08:31 AM
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Street Sense: From the first crop of Street Cry, who won the Dubai World Cup and Stephen Foster, Street Sense has everything it takes to win the Kentucky Derby. Like his sire, Street Sense should get only better with maturity and distance. His pedigree is strengthened by his first two damsires (Dixieland Band and His Majesty), who add more stamina. His second dam is a half-sister to Mr. Greeley, and he is also inbred 5x4 to Natalma. Three great stallions descend from Natalma - Northern Dancer, Danehill and Machiavellian - as well as hundreds of stakes winners. Getting a double dose of Natalma has proven to be a very good thing, and Street Sense is a prime example.
this is from lauren stich drf's breeding expert
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05-06-2007, 08:43 AM
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05-06-2007, 09:33 AM
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oh man I could say so much.
I think I have already expressed how difficult it is to determine the capability of a horse using very suspect genetic analysis. Find me, some genes that are directly related to some sort of physiological process involving running, or some muscular configuration, etc... and then Im closer to getting on board. And the day will come. But not in my lifetime imo.
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05-06-2007, 10:33 AM
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no way he had the worst pedigree. i thought cowtown showed limitations--apparently he felt the same way!
street cry is a young sire, and relatively unproven, but newer sires have lit up the derby tote board recently, and street cry does have plenty of pedigree to make up for the lack of numbers regarding runners/winners. machiavelli was a top sire, his dams family proven as well. it's much like elusive quality, and distorted humor. not around long, but good support, top mares, bingo. tiznow is another one.
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05-06-2007, 11:29 AM
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Street Sense is from the first crop of a World Cup winner Street Cry, a G1 winner at 10f and a son of Machiavellian, the only stallion to sire two World Cup winners. Street Cry's dam won the Irish Oaks (G1) at 12f, and was by REAL Derby winner Troy. The dam Bedazzle won 4 races and nearly $200,000, meaning she was running in good allowance company at major tracks, since she earned no black type. Her sire Dixieland Band has sired winners at all sorts of distances, from 5f maiden races to the Ascot Gold Cup at over 2 miles (Drum Taps). But in the main, his better ones could run well at a mile or more. The second dam was a SW at beyond 8f on turf by His Majesty, who is a major stamina source (sire of Pleasant Colony, et. al., damsire of Dynaformer). His fourth dam Lianga is a sprinting legend in Europe, where she won all four of the major sprint stakes in France and England, beating the guys with elan; she was the best runner sired by Kentucky Derby winner (in actual running) Dancer's Image and her prowess prompted his exportation to stand in France.
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05-06-2007, 11:57 AM
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Hey, pedigree experts, has any other stallion sired a Derby winner from his very first crop?
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05-06-2007, 11:57 AM
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wasn't funny cide from distorted humors first crop? and smary was either first, or maybe second crop....i'd have to go back and look at all of them.
not something i feel like doing right now.
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05-06-2007, 12:08 PM
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05-06-2007, 09:14 AM
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this is the first time I heard that Street Sense had a bad, sorry "The worst pedigree" Those *s they put next to the numbers means something like... unproven. I don't know. But one look at his profile tells you he is one of the best. Hard Spun was the best bred in the race IMO. That was quite an effort on his part but Street Sense was the only one that was moving.
I wonder how he and Hard Spun came out of the race
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05-06-2007, 09:18 AM
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What are you taking about Street Cry was a Dubai World Cup winner!! Anyone out there know the Beyer figure he earned yesterday. I was thinking like 104-106?? On to the preaknes against a fresh Chelokee.
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05-06-2007, 11:55 AM
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Absolutely indefensible statement! Others have detailed SS's pedigree, before posting something you might research instead of taking the word of some guy I never heard of! By any measure, SS has the pedigree of a Ky Derby winner. Regarding angles...the only one's I look at (zeros in DP and at least 16 pts), he has 22 pts in DP centered in the "C" (Classic) catagory and only one zero. Plenty of stamina...absolutely ridiculous statement!
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05-06-2007, 12:51 PM
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05-06-2007, 01:18 PM
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Other reines in Bedazzle's 5 generation family include Boudoir, Miss Disco, Delta Queen, Evening Mist, and Teresina.
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05-06-2007, 01:23 PM
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 lol, i surely hope you know i'm just kidding you!!
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