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Old 08-07-2007, 08:06 AM
NoLuvForPletch NoLuvForPletch is offline
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Default Hard Spun to the King's Bishop

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...e_races-2.html

I Love It! Hopefully they get that G1 Steve was talking about on his show yesterday and can then try him on the grass. If here romps here there is no way they should put him back in the Classic. I would love to see him run in the Kelso on the turf at BEL, and if he takes to it (and why shouldn't he?) run him in the BC Mile. There have to be so many different people pulling the strings here. Between Jones himself, Porter, the Darley guys trying to get the most out of him for stud duties and all of the "fans" (like us) advising him on what he should do with his horse, it has to be a madhouse over at Jones' barn. I know Larry, from what I've read, just LOVES being told how to handle his horse. I feel for him, but I feel for the horse as well. He's a very nice horse who has not been handled real well and now because he will only run until the end of the year will be hard pressed to go out and find that race that will make him the most valuable as a stallion prospect, instead of just letting him mature and become the best he can as a racehorse. I'm kind of wishing he didn't run so well in the Derby and then maybe breeders wouldn't have taken such a liking to him.

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Old 08-07-2007, 08:25 AM
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seeing he LOVES being told what to do, I'll tell him that i think the Malibu would be the better idea. He is already proven on synthetis and liklier softer competition.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:39 AM
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Hard Spun would have a serious look in the Breeders Cup Classic.

He's a much better horse when he's allowed to make the early lead, which he hasn't been since the Derby....because a wide variety of reasons ranging from Flying First Class and Xchanger setting crazy fractions in the Preakness, to incompetent race-riding by Gomez in the Belmont, to an early stumble while breaking from a slight outside post in the Haskell.

All the cheap speed that has denied him leads lately (horses like Xchanger, Cable Boy, etc) would certainly go in a race like the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile instead, if they'd run in a BC race at all.

Monmouth is a track that can be especially kind to controlling speed horses (see Gottcha Gold's wire-to-wire upset of Lawyer Ron at near level weight) and Hard Spun would prove a very elusive target to catch on the fairly easy lead he could possibly get.

If Hard Spun doesn't go in the Breeders Cup Classic....it could certainly setup to be a very paceless race.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:50 AM
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Hard Spun would have a serious look in the Breeders Cup Classic.

He's a much better horse when he's allowed to make the early lead, which he hasn't been since the Derby....because a wide variety of reasons ranging from Flying First Class and Xchanger setting crazy fractions in the Preakness, to incompetent race-riding by Gomez in the Belmont, to an early stumble while breaking from a slight outside post in the Haskell.

All the cheap speed that has denied him leads lately (horses like Xchanger, Cable Boy, etc) would certainly go in a race like the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile instead, if they'd run in a BC race at all.

Monmouth is a track that can be especially kind to controlling speed horses (see Gottcha Gold's wire-to-wire upset of Lawyer Ron at near level weight) and Hard Spun would prove a very elusive target to catch on the fairly easy lead he could possibly get.

If Hard Spun doesn't go in the Breeders Cup Classic....it could certainly setup to be a very paceless race.
I've given up on him after the Haskell... which means he'll probably win his next start.

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I don't think the 3YO Sprint Division is strong anywhere, East coast or West coast. Who will he face in the King's Bishop, Teufelsberg? Most Distingushed? Americanus? Sports Town? King of the Roxy? Black Seventeen? Am I missing someone? Not exactly Murderers' Row.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:52 AM
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I've given up on him after the Haskell... which means he'll probably win his next start.



Sports Town is dead.
Yikes, sorry about that folks, RIP.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:08 AM
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Why not, I like the idea. I don't care what the pace is for the BCC he would have no shot at wiring the field at 10F. His best shot at doing that came in the derby. Even at 9F he barely held off Curlin who needed the race and didn't hold off AGS of course. I think its sensible to shorten up a bit.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:45 AM
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seeing he LOVES being told what to do, I'll tell him that i think the Malibu would be the better idea. He is already proven on synthetis and liklier softer competition.
I don't think the 3YO Sprint Division is strong anywhere, East coast or West coast. Who will he face in the King's Bishop, Teufelsberg? Most Distingushed? Americanus? Sports Town? King of the Roxy? Black Seventeen? Am I missing someone? Not exactly Murderers' Row.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:51 AM
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If everything checks out OK it should include Stomello as well.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:55 AM
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If everything checks out OK it should include Stomello as well.
Kind of tough to run 7f 3 weeks after a bout with colic, wouldn't you think?
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:55 AM
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I don't think the 3YO Sprint Division is strong anywhere, East coast or West coast. Who will he face in the King's Bishop, Teufelsberg? Most Distingushed? Americanus? Sports Town? King of the Roxy? Black Seventeen? Am I missing someone? Not exactly Murderers' Row.
For some bizarre reason they are running Idiot Proof in a Cal-bred stakes on the polytrack. I would have liked to have seen him go in the King's Bishop since like you said, it isn't exactly Murderers' Row.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:23 PM
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For some bizarre reason they are running Idiot Proof in a Cal-bred stakes on the polytrack. I would have liked to have seen him go in the King's Bishop since like you said, it isn't exactly Murderers' Row.
bizarre aint the word i was thinking sniper.

i guess the horse isnt idiot proof after all.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Hard Spun should point for Breeders Cup Mile

Hard Spun should point for the Breeders Cup Mile on the grass.He is a cut below the horses pointing for the Classic. The mile would further his value as a sire. Jones should point him for it and develop a plan to reach it.
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