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Old 03-17-2007, 10:25 PM
POINTGIVEN1985 POINTGIVEN1985 is offline
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Default Top 5 Derby horses at this point

Just want everyones opinion on their personal top 5 as of now for the derby, along with 5 sleepers each, i know its early i just want to get a look at what everyone is thinking, you dont have to put them in order just throw out names....

top 5.... nobizlikeshowbiz, street sense, ravel, great hunter, hard spun

sleepers.....air commander, law breaker, rags to riches, liquidity, summer doldrums
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:33 PM
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How come Notional barely ever seems to get mentioned in any of these top 5 lists? He has looked solid in his last two stakes races, and people seem to forget that it did not look like CQ was going to get to him in the Risen Star even without the trouble. His sire was a G1 winner going 10f, so I wouldn't think pedigree would be the big knock on him.
Anyway, here is my Top 5 right now....in order.
1) Great Hunter
2) Street Sense
3) Ravel
4) Notional
5) Circular Quay

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Old 03-17-2007, 10:36 PM
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Out of sight, out of mind I think. Although i personally don't like him, I can see why many do.
What don't you like about him?
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:37 PM
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1. Street Sense
2. Notional
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Sam P./Curlin

oops that was six
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:22 AM
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1. Street Sense
2. Notional
3. Great Hunter
4. Circular Quay
5. Sam P./Curlin

oops that was six

Sam!! I like this horse as well... I saw him win on closing day at CD this past November. He just seems like a scrappy, versatile horse. One of those types that if he can't win it you can at least put him underneath. But, I do think the way he is progressing he might peak in a little over a month, get a good trip and be a derby winner.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:47 AM
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Sam!! I like this horse as well... I saw him win on closing day at CD this past November. He just seems like a scrappy, versatile horse. One of those types that if he can't win it you can at least put him underneath. But, I do think the way he is progressing he might peak in a little over a month, get a good trip and be a derby winner.
With the way he runs, I love that he's going to the Illinois Derby too.

He seems to be one of those horse who just can't quite seem to get the job done, but grinds and grinds, a style that can be effective in the Derby.

Hmmmm, grinds. Can't get the job done in preps. Still will get enough earnings to get in.

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Old 03-17-2007, 10:51 PM
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1) Street Sense
2) Scat Daddy
3) Great Hunter
4) Curlin
5) Any Given Saturday

Super sleeper- Grapelli... With a full field and a hot pace, this guy could make a run for it..Although his entrance into the derby seems unlikely due to graded earnings, I really believe this horse has a big upside.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:57 PM
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By tomorrow at 6pm. ArlJim will have 42 combinations worked out with his top five.

I should be so wise to start early.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:14 PM
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By tomorrow at 6pm. ArlJim will have 42 combinations worked out with his top five.

I should be so wise to start early.
haha, I said I start 2-3 weeks out thinking about the field and how I might attack it.

Tomorrow is too early even for me.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:39 AM
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1) Street Sense
2) Scat Daddy
3) Great Hunter
4) Curlin
5) Any Given Saturday

Super sleeper- Grapelli... With a full field and a hot pace, this guy could make a run for it..Although his entrance into the derby seems unlikely due to graded earnings, I really believe this horse has a big upside.
I agree. Loved Bella Belluci and remember Drysdale scratching her day of Alabama as I loved her in that spot. being a Thunder Gulch distance not an issue and I feel if he devlops, Grapelli could be a sleeper to hit the board and be a factor down the road of his 3 YO season. Saturdays race he had no shot in with pace scenario and short field. Give him some pace and a little maturity and he could be a factor
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:40 AM
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Oh and my top 5 would be

1. NBLS
2. Any Given Saturday
3. Circular Quay
4. Notional
5. Liquidity- Hanging on here but will give him one more chance
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:37 PM
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Cobalt Blue...who cares about the rest... huge futures at huge odds...


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Old 03-18-2007, 08:15 AM
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Cobalt Blue...who cares about the rest... huge futures at huge odds...


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i truly belive that there is not much to like about this guy, personally im alot higher on air commander at this point
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:34 PM
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Just want everyones opinion on their personal top 5 as of now for the derby, along with 5 sleepers each, i know its early i just want to get a look at what everyone is thinking, you dont have to put them in order just throw out names....

top 5.... nobizlikeshowbiz, street sense, ravel, great hunter, hard spun

sleepers.....air commander, law breaker, rags to riches, liquidity, summer doldrums
Hard Spun in your top 5? I don't see that one at all.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:13 AM
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Hard Spun in your top 5? I don't see that one at all.
it was either him or Notional and i just think that hard spun will be ok, he had 1 bad race as they all do, but i really do think he will bounce back, notional is a close 6th on my list, i did not put him on sleepers because he is not a sleeper he has won 2 stakes races in a row now
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Old 03-18-2007, 04:37 PM
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1. C.Q
2. Street Sense
3. Curlin
4. A.G.S.
5. Officer Rocket
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Old 03-18-2007, 05:39 PM
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i have a super sleeper, but i have no clue where he is ? or if hes still pointing to the bluegrass, his name is belgravia i could see him sitting back making 1 big run in the derby and getting a peice, thats if he's still even pointing there
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:21 PM
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Oh, I love Belgravia! But, I don't think he will have a shot in the Derby at this point if he even gets there, which I highly doubt that he will. He was sick in his last start which explained why he ran fourth that day...

I wonder what happened to Dilemma as well...
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:36 PM
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i have a super sleeper, but i have no clue where he is ? or if hes still pointing to the bluegrass, his name is belgravia i could see him sitting back making 1 big run in the derby and getting a peice, thats if he's still even pointing there
he worked 4 in 48 @ Keeneland yesterday...I thought I read somewhere that they were going to try to get him to the Lane's End but I may be thinking of another horse
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:46 PM
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i read that he was going bluegrass then derby which is crazy, but im sure biancone will do it, if anyone knows if this is correct please post, i guess it would explain him working at keenland
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