India shippers??????

[Mike]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I'm with MyMissStormCat and NoChanceto Dance on this one. The picture is the sort of racist crap that we don't need in this country and certainly don't need on this site.
And by the way, if people can't understand why posting that picture and saying that it is a picture of the horse's trainer is racist......I would suggest they figure out what actually constitutes racism. It doesn't only exist in the KKK.

Thanks for your response, Miraja.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

Sorry,

Spyder

Thank you for the apology.

I did find the picture of very bad taste.

The American racing fan better used to foreign horses coming over and taking your prize money, and not just from England and Ireland.

Everyone laughs when they see a horse from India, but everyone used to laugh at horses from Hong Kong and Japan, but now people run scared of them.

Everyone has to start from somewhere. In the next 10 years, you'll see many top horses coming from the likes of India and even Turkey (yes, you read it right, i did say Turkey). They are up and coming countries in this game, and if the big racing countries around the world dismiss them as has been done before many of us could look like complete fools.

I understand that the outsourcing of jobs is annoying, but that is our fault not theirs. We want to do no work for as much money as possible, we are greedy. They take what they can get, and for that, i applaud them. I play cricket with a few indian stable lads, not only will they do anything for you if you ask, but they are the most reliable people i know and fantastic horsemen also.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

Sorry,

Spyder

Someone told me privately that you're a decent type and I'm glad to find out for myself that you are.

There's enough hatred in the world... you know? So anything i see as an attack or disrespect, borderline racism etc.... I just have to call the person on it.

Racing is about the horses and so is without borders, to me anyway. That sounds cliche but i can't think of another way to word it.

I do understand that you meant it as humor... I'm not humorless..... but thank you for understanding that it bothered me, why it bothered me, and for taking the time to respond.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Someone told me privately that you're a decent type and I'm glad to find out for myself that you are.

There's enough hatred in the world... you know? So anything i see as an attack or disrespect, borderline racism etc.... I just have to call the person on it.

Racing is about the horses and so is without borders, to me anyway. That sounds cliche but i can't think of another way to word it.

I do understand that you meant it as humor... I'm not humorless..... but thank you for understanding that it bothered me, why it bothered me, and for taking the time to respond.

There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

insensitive racist bastard...

[eajinabi]

Horse did not look like he switched leads.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GPK

insensitive racist bastard...

insensitive......maybe

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

this one is a head scratcher. We have only 2 more weeks in the meet and this guy ships in with his first horse. Probably just going to single Go Between and use Demeteor as a backup at 10-1.

Nice Exacta Pick. I hope you played it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Horse did not look like he switched leads.

He looks like a $40k claimer over here. Chased a soft pace and was empty. Not exactly a bunch of world beaters in there today. If anyone thinks this is racist or insensitive, I apologize in advance.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He looks like a $40k claimer over here. Chased a soft pace and was empty. Not exactly a bunch of world beaters in there today. If anyone thinks this is racist or insensitive, I apologize in advance.

Look mmsc, you were right

It gets boring when you can predict future posts.

He finished 2nd to Mystical, he is no claimer..... that's for sure.

[eajinabi]

Probably not a claimer type here but who knows. Thought he looked a bit thin in the post parade. He is well traveled and I hope they decide to stick him around and drop him in Allowance company or run him on the poly.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Look mmsc, you were right

It gets boring when you can predict future posts.

He finished 2nd to Mystical, he is no claimer..... that's for sure.

Well the winner of todays race, who was decisively better today, most recently won a pair of $40k claimers. I'm know you are seemingly the all- knowing, European sophisticate but he does not look like much based upon his race today. Of course smart guys like you know more than us uneducated Americans who saw a poor performance from a top horse from a country that you touted "long ago" as the next world superpower in horseracing.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.
As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well the winner of todays race, who was decisively better today, most recently won a pair of $40k claimers. I'm know you are seemingly the all- knowing, European sophisticate but he does not look like much based upon his race today. Of course smart guys like you know more than us uneducated Americans who saw a poor performance from a top horse from a country that you touted "long ago" as the next world superpower in horseracing.

It's these sort of sarcastic posts i usually just laugh at and move on, but you persist in mocking people's posts, i will make a comment.

As has been mentoned before, this horse has had many travels previous to this start, so at least give him that credit. Maybe all that travelling too too much out of him? Did you ever ask yourself that question......? doesn't look like it.

Someone said he looked thin in the paddock, i guess you didn't see that, either.

As i said, he has finished second to Mystical, so he is no claimer, no matter what today's race suggested. I guess you just look at one previous run when betting, do you? Fine tactic. It was one run, how can you say he is a claimer? You must be some expert to know that from seeing him race one time. Let me bow down and worship your wisdom

Did i ever mention the word "superpower" in any part of my previous post?
*looks back over it*.......... No, i didn't. But they are an up and coming country in this sport and any horses being shipped to run in any country around the world shouldn't just be dismissed just because of where he/she is trained, neither should they be overlooked after much travelling and one race in a foreign country.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by miraja2

First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.

As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.

A very well written post.

[trifecta124]

I think everyone needs to lighten up.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by miraja2

First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.
As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.

You too my friend are a little too sensitive. The picture is NOT racist in any manner. If you want to take offense, then take it. Just because a picture depicts a person of a different race than you, it is not necesarily racist. The "racist mentality" that you too seem to have is when racism is used as a substitute for poor taste. There is a huge difference. Spyder is a nice guy who attempted a little humor. You guys are the ones who turned it into an issue.

There is a Bud light commercial that plays excessively of a guy teaching a class of decidedly non-americans to speak English. There are the typical sterotypes and funny (foreign sounding) pronounciations. That is called humor. Or maybe Budweiser is a racist company too. Maybe it is not your type but it also is not racist. Is Rush Hour 3 a racist movie because Chris Tucker makes Chinese jokes and pokes fun at the way Jackie Chan talks? Maybe I am the politically incorrect one but maybe you should lighten up and stop making the world such a miserable place with all your correctness.

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You too my friend are a little too sensitive. The picture is NOT racist in any manner. If you want to take offense, then take it. Just because a picture depicts a person of a different race than you, it is not necesarily racist. The "racist mentality" that you too seem to have is when racism is used as a substitute for poor taste. There is a huge difference. Spyder is a nice guy who attempted a little humor. You guys are the ones who turned it into an issue.


There is a Bud light commercial that plays excessively of a guy teaching a class of decidedly non-americans to speak English. There are the typical sterotypes and funny (foreign sounding) pronounciations. That is called humor. Or maybe Budweiser is a racist company too. Maybe it is not your type but it also is not racist. Is Rush Hour 3 a racist movie because Chris Tucker makes Chinese jokes and pokes fun at the way Jackie Chan talks? Maybe I am the politically incorrect one but maybe you should lighten up and stop making the world such a miserable place with all your correctness.

A very well written post.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

It's these sort of sarcastic posts i usually just laugh at and move on, but you persist in mocking people's posts, i will make a comment.

As has been mentoned before, this horse has had many travels previous to this start, so at least give him that credit. Maybe all that travelling too too much out of him? Did you ever ask yourself that question......? doesn't look like it.

Someone said he looked thin in the paddock, i guess you didn't see that, either.

As i said, he has finished second to Mystical, so he is no claimer, no matter what today's race suggested. I guess you just look at one previous run when betting, do you? Fine tactic. It was one run, how can you say he is a claimer? You must be some expert to know that from seeing him race one time. Let me bow down and worship your wisdom

Did i ever mention the word "superpower" in any part of my previous post?
*looks back over it*.......... No, i didn't. But they are an up and coming country in this sport and any horses being shipped to run in any country around the world shouldn't just be dismissed just because of where he/she is trained, neither should they be overlooked after much travelling and one race in a foreign country.

Of course the travel is a concern but finishing second to Mystical last year does not make him a good horse. As for his paddock presence, how do we know that he is doesn't look like that all the time? My probem with you is that you make these kind of statements like you have some kind of info that the rest of us don't have. Your condescending tone too often does not make you a favorite either. You have repeatedly expressed your disdain with how the syntheic tracks are cared for over here though there are many different types in all maners of different climates. The fact that you have no more idea than anyone else here about how they are being cared for never deters you. The fact that Darley is becoming the stallion power in the US seems to bother you as you always knock them even though all evidence is that they are on the right track. Your taking offense to Spyders attempt at a little humor also comes off as a typical response. If you dont like what I'm saying then simply ignore me. Or keep responding. I don't care either way.

Now that is offensive.