Flying First Class

[Sightseek]

Doing what he should be doing!

Wins the Derby Trail by several.

[my miss storm cat]

Didn't see the race but what happened to Barkley Sound?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Didn't see the race but what happened to Barkley Sound?

He broke down.

Does anyone know if they were able to save him?

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

He broke down.

Does anyone know if they were able to save him?

According to DRF, he had to be euthanized So sad!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by dearheart54

According to DRF, he had to be euthanized So sad!

God, that's devastating. I really liked that horse... what a shame. He was one of a few that has Crozier left in his line...

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

God, that's devastating. I really liked that horse... what a shame. He was one of a few that has Crozier left in his line...

After doing some research on Crozier, yes, it is definitely a shame.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

God, that's devastating. I really liked that horse... what a shame. He was one of a few that has Crozier left in his line...

It is sad. He had a nice meet down in Tampa this winter in which he had those three straight victories, including a stakes win.
It makes me feel bad for Joan Scott and Pinebloom Stable.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Doing what he should be doing!

Wins the Derby Trail by several.

The bad news for the colt is that his trainer probably viewed today's result as a reason to run the horse in the Preakness and Belmont.
He is that crazy.

[Danzig]

actually, he did say they are preakness bound.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

actually, he did say they are preakness bound.

Of course he did. The Triple Crown makes this guy completely insane. Remember Going Wild? His decision to run that colt in the Preakness after he had already shown in both the Wood and the Derby that he wanted no part of going 9f or beyond was absolutely ridiculous.
If FFC runs poorly at Pimlico, will that stop Lukas from running him at 12f in the Belmont? I doubt it.
I don't know if it the owners or Lukas are making the call on sending him to Pimlico, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is DWL's call. Why he can't see that this horse is a one-turn horse.....I'll never know. EVERYONE else on the planet can see it, but he can't.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Of course he did. The Triple Crown makes this guy completely insane. Remember Going Wild? His decision to run that colt in the Preakness after he had already shown in both the Wood and the Derby that he wanted no part of going 9f or beyond was absolutely ridiculous.
If FFC runs poorly at Pimlico, will that stop Lukas from running him at 12f in the Belmont? I doubt it.
I don't know if it the owners or Lukas are making the call on sending him to Pimlico, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is DWL's call. Why he can't see that this horse is a one-turn horse.....I'll never know. EVERYONE else on the planet can see it, but he can't.

everyone knows lukas' record in the the tc. i would guess he has been here enough times to know what he can, or can't get out of a horse. it's a shame that he is spotlighted for his glaring disappointments, rather than for those times he won, or came close. funny that now it's the going wilds who are mentioned, not the charismatics.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Danzig

everyone knows lukas' record in the the tc. i would guess he has been here enough times to know what he can, or can't get out of a horse. it's a shame that he is spotlighted for his glaring disappointments, rather than for those times he won, or came close. funny that now it's the going wilds who are mentioned, not the charismatics.

I don't think that is entirely true...how many times have you heard someone say you can't ignore lukas in a Stakes race? He does take a gamble with his horses though.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

everyone knows lukas' record in the the tc. i would guess he has been here enough times to know what he can, or can't get out of a horse. it's a shame that he is spotlighted for his glaring disappointments, rather than for those times he won, or came close. funny that now it's the going wilds who are mentioned, not the charismatics.

No question that he had a ton of success in the 80s and 90s. Nobody could dispute that. But his decisions over the last five to seven years regarding who to push into these races or on to the Derby trail have been poor. I don't see how anybody could dispute that either.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

everyone knows lukas' record in the the tc. i would guess he has been here enough times to know what he can, or can't get out of a horse. it's a shame that he is spotlighted for his glaring disappointments, rather than for those times he won, or came close. funny that now it's the going wilds who are mentioned, not the charismatics.

I loved Charismatic.

Danzig, I agree, you can't take away what he accomplished the last two decades, but now he kind of reminds me of an aging "A list" movie star trying to still play the romantic lead roles. DWL doesn't have the stock he once did (for whatever reason; I don't know any of that kind of stuff) but I feel like he's so eager to still be there in the TC races that recently he puts in horses that don't have a chance to win because it's hard to let go of when he was the top of the game. My take on it, anyway. Lord knows I'm no psychologist, for which the psychology profession should be grateful.

Not, of course, that I'm thinking of any specific aging movie stars, of course.

How's filming on "Indiana Jones 4" coming, I wonder?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The bad news for the colt is that his trainer probably viewed today's result as a reason to run the horse in the Preakness and Belmont.
He is that crazy.

If this race was a week ago, he would be Derby bound.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

If this race was a week ago, he would be Derby bound.

Well, not really because he has no graded stakes earnings.
If, however, the Derby Trial was graded, I am confident that DWL would run him back in the Derby a week later.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well, not really because he has no graded stakes earnings.
If, however, the Derby Trial was graded, I am confident that DWL would run him back in the Derby a week later.

True...with the move he made in the Arkansas Derby, I thought for sure he'd hit the board... but then flatten out.
That with today's victory would have been enough...and he would be added speed to the race.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well, not really because he has no graded stakes earnings.
If, however, the Derby Trial was graded, I am confident that DWL would run him back in the Derby a week later.

i was thinking the same thing.

[rgustafson]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

If this race was a week ago, he would be Derby bound.

Understand where your coming from, of course, but to compare a two turn 1/16 mile graded stakes on poly track at Keeneland to one turn 7and 1/2 furlong non graded stakes race on the dirt at Churchill makes no sense. Give us a better analogy, or are you saying that two weeks from the Derby is ok, but one week isn't?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by rgustafson

Understand where your coming from, of course, but to compare a two turn 1/16 mile graded stakes on poly track at Keeneland to one turn 7and 1/2 furlong non graded stakes race on the dirt at Churchill makes no sense. Give us a better analogy, or are you saying that two weeks from the Derby is ok, but one week isn't?

Going by the "Lukas logic"...if their breathing, he'll send them!