Time to stir the pot!!!!!

[pmayjr]

You know who could learn from the whole Barbaro situation? Dubya! In regards to Iraq.

First of all, R.I.P. Barbaro- you will be missed, you were a gamer!

But with that being said, Barbaro is like the Iraq situation. The great vets did everything they could possibly do to try and keep Barbaro alive. Every method, every treatment, when a new problem arose, they'd do whatever they could to to fix it. BUT WHEN SOMETHING IS JUST TOO BROKEN, YOU JUST CAN'T FIX IT!
Sounds a lot like Iraq to me!

Dubya, swallow your pride, cut your losses, and send our troops home. Let those ****ers be a bunch of warlords. Let them figure it out. Yeah we broke it, but we can't fix it. Enough people in that country won't let us fix it. It's time to leave. Otherwise this thing is Vietnam.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

You know who could learn from the whole Barbaro situation? Dubya! In regards to Iraq.

First of all, R.I.P. Barbaro- you will be missed, you were a gamer!

But with that being said, Barbaro is like the Iraq situation. The great vets did everything they could possibly do to try and keep Barbaro alive. Every method, every treatment, when a new problem arose, they'd do whatever they could to to fix it. BUT WHEN SOMETHING IS JUST TOO BROKEN, YOU JUST CAN'T FIX IT!
Sounds a lot like Iraq to me!

Dubya, swallow your pride, cut your losses, and send our troops home. Let those ****ers be a bunch of warlords. Let them figure it out. Yeah we broke it, but we can't fix it. Enough people in that country won't let us fix it. It's time to leave. Otherwise this thing is Vietnam.

Couldn't this have been put in the political room, Pete? By the way, you're comparing apples to oranges.

[ManilaRose]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Couldn't this have been put in the political room, Pete? By the way, you're comparing apples to oranges.

My thoughts exactly.

[blackthroatedwind]

I think this belongs in the " Ban Hooves " thread.

I compared New Coke to the situation in Iraq. I was ****ing hammered at the time.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

You know who could learn from the whole Barbaro situation? Dubya! In regards to Iraq.

First of all, R.I.P. Barbaro- you will be missed, you were a gamer!

But with that being said, Barbaro is like the Iraq situation. The great vets did everything they could possibly do to try and keep Barbaro alive. Every method, every treatment, when a new problem arose, they'd do whatever they could to to fix it. BUT WHEN SOMETHING IS JUST TOO BROKEN, YOU JUST CAN'T FIX IT!
Sounds a lot like Iraq to me!

Dubya, swallow your pride, cut your losses, and send our troops home. Let those ****ers be a bunch of warlords. Let them figure it out. Yeah we broke it, but we can't fix it. Enough people in that country won't let us fix it. It's time to leave. Otherwise this thing is Vietnam.

Pmayjr,
You say things more directly than I do. I put up a post in the "Lesson Learned From Chickens" thread about "Letting Go".
Yup, you are correct...the time to let go of Iraq is now. Many people have said so, a majority "of the people".
If you want to copy and paste your words over in that one, feel free.
It's fine with me.
There is a time to let go.
DTS

[Danzig]

the nick saban school for those who want to try.

when it gets too hard, just quit.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

the nick saban school for those who want to try.

when it gets too hard, just quit.

..or when you don't like living in North Cuba...move!!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

the nick saban school for those who want to try.

when it gets too hard, just quit.

Danzig,
I admit that I'm uninformed on some things, too lazy about others.
So I don't have to do the "google" thing...who is Nick Saban?
Was he a jockey that found that he was riding a horse that was fifty lengths behind Secretariat in th Belmont, he decided to hold his whip?
Just curious...no sense beating a dead horse...where did that one come from?

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Pmayjr,
You say things more directly than I do. I put up a post in the "Lesson Learned From Chickens" thread about "Letting Go".
Yup, you are correct...the time to let go of Iraq is now. Many people have said so, a majority "of the people".
If you want to copy and paste your words over in that one, feel free.
It's fine with me.
There is a time to let go.
DTS

I agree DTS. We just didnt get the job done. Not because of the US being weak, because you cant find a war with rules. If we are to win this war, you basically need to drop a bomb on a few cities over there, destroy their will and then build them back up. Basically, make them fearful. Right now they have no fear. And of course, they do not value life like we do. It is time to bring them home and let things fall as the may.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Danzig,
I admit that I'm uninformed on some things, too lazy about others.
So I don't have to do the "google" thing...who is Nick Saban?
Was he a jockey that found that he was riding a horse that was fifty lengths behind Secretariat in th Belmont, he decided to hold his whip?
Just curious...no sense beating a dead horse...where did that one come from?

he was the dolphins head coach--surely you have heard of him? he quit after 2 years and went back to college. pro's was too hard, and he knew he wouldn't win this coming year. it got hard, so he quit. seems to be the modern way. hell, just look at divorce rates! when the going gets tough--just quit.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I agree DTS. We just didnt get the job done. Not because of the US being weak, because you cant find a war with rules. If we are to win this war, you basically need to drop a bomb on a few cities over there, destroy their will and then build them back up. Basically, make them fearful. Right now they have no fear. And of course, they do not value life like we do. It is time to bring them home and let things fall as the may.

no--we have to choose a side. sunni or shiite. you know--like in the revolution--brits or patriots. civil war--north or south.
pick a side. the sunnis and shiites are tearing the place apart. one has to 'win' the other has to 'lose'. they can't both be in power. we aren't talking dems and reps here.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

no--we have to choose a side. sunni or shiite. you know--like in the revolution--brits or patriots. civil war--north or south.
pick a side. the sunnis and shiites are tearing the place apart. one has to 'win' the other has to 'lose'. they can't both be in power. we aren't talking dems and reps here.

Why cant both be in power and it isnt our business.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

he was the dolphins head coach--surely you have heard of him? he quit after 2 years and went back to college. pro's was too hard, and he knew he wouldn't win this coming year. it got hard, so he quit. seems to be the modern way. hell, just look at divorce rates! when the going gets tough--just quit.

If I could get the money Bama offered i'd leave too. Most people would. Especially when you consider the chances were great he was going to get fired after one more year. Plus his family wasn't happy in Miami.

Done deal. He didn't quit on his family and that's what matters most.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

he was the dolphins head coach--surely you have heard of him? he quit after 2 years and went back to college. pro's was too hard, and he knew he wouldn't win this coming year. it got hard, so he quit. seems to be the modern way. hell, just look at divorce rates! when the going gets tough--just quit.

Danzig,
Thanks for explaining. I'm not a football guy, so I didn't know.
Now, divorce...I know more than enough about that, but that's for a pm if you really want to know.
Sux any way ya shake or bake it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Why cant both be in power?

they have been enemies for a thousand or so years. they just happen to live in the same country...and they're tearing it apart. and until one takes control, things will continue as they are.

see, unlike our two party system--they can't just vote and move on. we still all have pretty much the same ideology. we all believe in our system of checks and balances. we all have faith in our democratic republic. and keep in mind it's taken us many years to get where we are--a lot of growing pains along the way. it wasn't like we fought the brits and then snuggled up together for the next 210 years. we've packed a goodly portion of battles and civil war into our brief history...
a democracy is not easily won. our biggest mistake was thinking we could have instant success over there. remove saddam, boom democracy. isn't going to happen overnight.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

If I could get the money Bama offered i'd leave too. Most people would. Especially when you consider the chances were great he was going to get fired after one more year. Plus his family wasn't happy in Miami.

Done deal. He didn't quit on his family and that's what matters most.

had he won this past year, and had any good thoughts about the year to come, and his roster, he'd have stayed...money was the same. i understand the why's and all that...fact remains he still quit. but that's for another thread....

Originally Posted by Danzig188

had he won this past year, and had any good thoughts about the year to come, and his roster, he'd have stayed...money was the same. i understand the why's and all that...fact remains he still quit. but that's for another thread....

People quit jobs all of the time to take better ones. Why stay somewhere when you aren't happy?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Why cant both be in power and it isnt our business.

as for it isn't our business--didn't see that originally....

we're over there, so i guess it is our business. it's funny, we get criticized for not going to darfur and places like that (we should DO Something is constantly said about places like that) but then when we DO something, we're wrong for doing so....

we have to get them stable enough to leave. altho i don't know who will decide just how stable is 'enough'.

read an interesting article in time about civil wars, where they happen, how they end. an eye opener for sure.

the biggest problem at this point imo isn't iraq. it's iran. and we created just what they avoided creating in gulf '91-- a power vacuum. iraq kept iran at bay, and vice versa. then dummy ignored everything we knew and went in anyway. iran's prez is our creation. bush gave birth to that rat bastard and now we have nukes to worry about. leave iraq, and guess who's moving in??

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

People quit jobs all of the time to take better ones. Why stay somewhere when you aren't happy?

Why lie about it?