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Old 01-19-2019, 08:08 AM
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Default 1/19 ATR 'Game Builder' ~ NTamm on P3's (TAM 7-9)

As part of ATR Weekend Previews, we're doing bet structure and bankroll management discussions with Nick and other top players.. Friday, using today's TAM 7th/8th/9th, we focused on Pick 3's..


TAM 7: Pasco, 3yo, 7f (P5P3, DD)

A: #4 Win Win Win (5-2) WON ($5.20)
B: #2 Overdeliver (4-1); #3 Zenden (3-1); #7 Cave Run (7-2)
C: #1 Jackson (6-1)/SCR; #6 Gladiator King (6-1)
X: #5


TAM 8: OC/N2X, 1m-T (P4, P3, DD, Hi-5)

A: #1 Ponti Scheme (5-2); #4 Summer Sweet (3-1); #9 Magic Hatter (10-1)
B: #5 Sweet Story (9-2)
C: #3 Crown and Sugar (6-1) WON ($16.20); #7 Classy Woman (15-1)
X: #'s 2-6-8


TAM 9: Gasparilla, 3yo, 7f (P3, DD, Hi-5)

A: #6 Molto Bella (6-1) WON ($16.80); #10 Souper Escape (8-1)
B: #5 Ace Dinero (15-1); #9 Into Trouble (9-2)
C: #2 Into the South (5-1); #4 Chief of Joy (9-2)
X: #'s 1-3-7-8-11


Weighted P3 Plays ($77 total):


All A’s ~ $30.00

1.) 4 / 1,4,9 / 6,10 ~ A/A/A (1x3x2 = 6 x $5 = $30.00)


A's with One B ~ $39.00

2.) 2,3,7 / 1,4,9 / 6,10 ~ B/A/A (3x3x2 = 18 x $1.50 = $27.00)

3.) 4 / 5 / 6,10 ~ A/B/A (1x1x2 = 2 x $1.50 = $3.00)

4.) 4 / 1,4,9 / 5,9 ~ A/A/B (1x3x2 = 6 x $1.50 = $9.00)


A's with C’s ~ $11.00

5.) 1/SCR,6 / 1,4,9 / 6,10 ~ C/A/A (1x3x2 = 6 x .50 = $3.00)

6.) 4 / 3,7 / 6,10 ~ A/C/A (1x2x2 = 4 x .50 = $2.00) $0.50 Pick-3 (4/3/6) Paid $118.85

7.) 4 / 1,4,9 / 2,4 ~ A/A/C (1x3x2 = 6 x .50 = #3.00)


Feel free to ask questions.. Good luck!
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Old 01-19-2019, 09:34 AM
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Default thanks steve

1st off ,i love this new addiction to the program ,very informative
so following this it looks like it will cost a player 93 dollars total
theres a few negitives that i can see, [and when i say negitives] i dont mean from nicks or yours standpoint
i mean just by the way ive seen the game change since pk 5 and 4 have been introduced to the game
in my opinion
the pick 3 is not even secondary to the game anymore
with the pk 4 and esp. the pick 5
it has [again] in my opinion ]stolen the pools from the pick 3
to where the value has been lost in playing the play
again
it has nothing to do with nick or you
what i think your doing is going week to week and introducing a new format of playing a individual play [which i love the concept]
and the second thing i noticed was[ and i could be wrong here]
it looks like you cannot win on multiple tickets
only one of these can hit
with the value of the pool decreasing because of pk 4 and 5,s
in my opinion ,you will need a heavy longshot to be included in the sequence to make any money
never the less im on board and investing the 93
i think its a great tool and something each week to look forward too
and of course ,if im wrong in my opinions ,,please tell me,,as i have no clue if the pk 3 pools have decreased, its just a feeling i have
im adding the 9 horse in the 9th,on everyticket so my play will be a little more
good luck everyone
i live in a small town called waterford ny just outside albany and we are supposed to get hit with close to 2 feet of snow today,
hope i can find the mailbox by next week
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Old 01-19-2019, 09:48 AM
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1st off, i love this new addiction to the program, very informative. So following this, it looks like it will cost a player 93 dollars total
Yes to $93, but Nick is dropping the "A's with 2 B's" option, so it's $80 total.

And of course people can adjust to their budget by playing the All A's for less than $5, the A/B's for $1 or .50, etc.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:44 PM
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Let's look at this ticket structure considering just the opening leg. The only horse that was tossed was War Bride, 30-1 on the morning line. After scratches, the tickets will cover, at varying levels, all of the other four horses still to run.

So, if you think that ~4% of the total pool will include War Bride (30-1) in the opening leg, doesn't this mean that the tickets are creating a significanty more negative return than just the takeout? (Translation : You are playing to cover 96% of the remaining pool with a 15-20% takeout. Shouldn't you try to eliminate at least 15-20% of the opening leg's pool money in your "X" selections?)
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