McKee Blew it!

DiscreetCat=Monster · #1 09-23-2006, 05:21 PM

This horse will be much better off with a diffrent jock. I watched this horse in the derby and he did the same thing. He runs off up the backside and McKee and he cant get him to relax. He gave him too many commands in a short amount of time. he finally gets the horse to slow down and then the race is just starting so he got to start askin him right after he was chokin him. I bet the horse is confused

PeteMugg · #2 09-23-2006, 05:34 PM

No chit ... thought my mom was driving LR for a moment there. Don't like riding with her and I'm guessing the ride with McKee is just as scary.

2Hot4TV · #3 09-23-2006, 05:36 PM

I don't think it matters who rides him , just wants to be in front and run. We saw the same thing at Arkansas Derby when he pushed his way to the front.
Point Determand is a cut below and I hope we don't have to hear about him betting real good horse again.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #4 09-23-2006, 05:36 PM

As soon as I saw the hammer lock on LR, I said hes screwed. WTF was McKee doing? That horse should have won today...

Pedigree Ann · #5 09-23-2006, 05:38 PM

Let him run, if he wants to, pinhead! Put 10 lengths on the field and make them come and get you. Won't use up more energy than that wrestling match did. How much was he beaten, a length? Should have had more than that in hand.

Holthus is an old-school guy, you know, loyal to his folks. But there has to be a limit, like when bone-head plays cost the owner a big purse.

Revolution · #6 09-23-2006, 05:39 PM

The best horse won. LR can't rate and SC can. The jockey wins 90% of the time with the horse but when he loses it is his fault. Ever think the Derby horses and SC are faster. LR has never been that fast.

TheSpyder · #7 09-23-2006, 05:39 PM

PD is sad. How has this horse dropped so far so fast.

As for McKee ride is was McAweful, although I has SC. Lost several lengths in a toppsy turvy ride.

Revolution · #8 09-23-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Let him run, if he wants to, pinhead! Put 10 lengths on the field and make them come and get you. Won't use up more energy than that wrestling match did. How much was he beaten, a length? Should have had more than that in hand.

Holthus is an old-school guy, you know, loyal to his folks. But there has to be a limit, like when bone-head plays cost the owner a big purse.

Maybe he beats bad horses if he just runs out there, but he could never beat a quality horse doing that. He either learns to rate or will always be the overhyped horse he is now.

2Hot4TV · #9 09-23-2006, 05:43 PM

Blame the trainer. The horse wont rate. The only jockey that I would use on Lawyer Ron is P Val. He would sit on him like a sack of potato and hang on.

Pedigree Ann · #10 09-23-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

The best horse won. LR can't rate and SC can. .

You obviously didn't watch the Rebel S or the St. Louis Derby. Ron rated quite nicely in those races. Even was off the pace until the far turn in the Arkansas Derby. He wouldn't rate today for some reason and his jock tried to MAKE him; always a mistake.

2Hot4TV · #11 09-23-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

PD is sad. How has this horse dropped so far so fast.

As for McKee ride is was McAweful, although I has SC. Lost several lengths in a toppsy turvy ride.

He never was very good. He started his career as a 100k claimer and won against poor west coast compition.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #12 09-23-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Blame the trainer. The horse wont rate. The only jockey that I would use on Lawyer Ron is P Val. He would sit on him like a sack of potato and hang on.

Yea but then you would lose all aerodynamics

2Hot4TV · #13 09-23-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

You obviously didn't watch the Rebel S or the St. Louis Derby. Ron rated quite nicely in those races. Even was off the pace until the far turn in the Arkansas Derby. He wouldn't rate today for some reason and his jock tried to MAKE him; always a mistake.

I agree with you that LR has alot of talent ,but we saw this trend start a Keenland. He wont rate.

2Hot4TV · #14 09-23-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LOSE=GLUE

Yea but then you would lose all aerodynamics

I was serious about P val riding LR. You never see him fight a horse to place him, he's real good at not wasting your horse.

Slewbopper · #15 09-23-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LOSE=GLUE

This horse will be much better off with a diffrent jock. I watched this horse in the derby and he did the same thing. He runs off up the backside and McKee and he cant get him to relax. He gave him too many commands in a short amount of time. he finally gets the horse to slow down and then the race is just starting so he got to start askin him right after he was chokin him. I bet the horse is confused

Exactly. I had Ron keyed on top in the super with SC, the horse that showed, Costa and PD. Bah!

Rupert Pupkin · #16 09-23-2006, 05:52 PM

LR actually rated fine in his last race. He came from 7 lengths back that day. I don't know why he was so rank today. I saw the same thing happen to him in another race. I think it was in the Arkansas Derby where McKee slightly asked him going into the first turn just to try to get a slightly better position, and the horse totally took off and dragged him all the way up to the lead.

I guess with this horse you can't ask him until you really want him to run because once you slightly step on the gas, he wants to run off.

If he would have relaxed today, he would have had a good chance to win the race. He just went a little bit too fast. That's not to take anything away from Strong Contender. He ran a good race too.

Rupert Pupkin · #17 09-23-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

He never was very good. He started his career as a 100k claimer and won against poor west coast compition.

I am not a fan of PD at all. I never liked him. He never ran in a $100 claimer though.

sumitas · #18 09-23-2006, 05:55 PM

Sounds like we're talking about Funny Cide and Santos, lol. Just substitute the 2 for LR and McKee.

Strong Contender is a distance runner, beautifully bred to be so. I think he is improving at the right time and could factor in the BC Classic if he's nominated.

2Hot4TV · #19 09-23-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

LR actually rated fine in his last race. He came from 7 lengths back that day. I don't know why he was so rank today. I saw the same thing happen to him in another race. I think it was in the Arkansas Derby where McKee slightly asked him going into the first turn just to try to get a slightly better position, and the horse totally took off and dragged him all the way up to the lead.

I guess with this horse you can't ask him until you really want him to run because once you slightly step on the gas, he wants to run off.

If he would have relaxed today, he would have had a good chance to win the race. He just went a little bit too fast. That's not to take anything away from Strong Contender. He ran a good race too.

I didn't see his last race. Was he out side of horse with nothing in his face?

DJARUM · #20 09-23-2006, 06:04 PM

I like LR, but I don't think he is fast enough to compete at the top level. How about turf>