Obama and Republicans debate for over an hour

[Riot]

You gotta love politics!

Obama Goes To GOP Lions' Den -- And Mauls The Lions
First Posted: 01-29-10 03:12 PM | Updated: 01-29-10 05:39 PM

President Obama traveled to a House Republican retreat in Baltimore on Friday and delivered a performance that was at once defiant, substantive and engaging. For roughly an hour and a half, Obama lectured GOP leaders and, in a protracted, nationally-televised question-and-answer session, deflected their policy critiques, corrected their misstatements and scolded them for playing petty politics.

MSNBC's Luke Russert, who was on the scene in Baltimore, relayed that a Republican official and other GOP aides had confided to him that allowing the "cameras to roll like that" was a "mistake."

Full video with Q & A here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_442423.html

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

You gotta love politics!

I thought it was great..Righties got their shots in...Reminded me of British Parliament

[Smooth Operator]

Good to see BO getting in the faces of these GOP (Grand Obstructionist Party) losers again.

Thoroughly enjoyed his jabs during that State of the Union speech the other night … particularly the one that caused the severe contortions on Alito's ugly mug.


By the way, anyone know who these con hypocrites are who voted against the stimulus package … then had the nerve to show up at ribbon cutting ceremonies for some of the projects?

[Riot]

"So effective was the president that Fox News cut away from the broadcast 20 minutes before it ended."

[SOREHOOF]

Obama sure has a lot of people fooled. It's about what they do, not what they say. I'm really looking forward to the offshore drilling for oil promised in the SOTU.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

He was trying so hard to keep from saying their healthcare plans are crap. They kept saying he ignored their plans, and he calmly said "I look at this stuff." In other words, come again. It's crap.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He was trying so hard to keep from saying their healthcare plans are crap. They kept saying he ignored their plans, and he calmly said "I look at this stuff." In other words, come again. It's crap.

"And I invite any independent fact checker to review what I just said, and what you just said"

The Republicans invited the guy to an open, televised Q & A consisting of all GOP, didn't give him any subjects ahead of time, had their best and brightest reading attack-point political statements one after the other, and Obama owned them.

Without a teleprompter in sight

Pretty awesome politics.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

"And I invite any independent fact checker to review what I just said, and what you just said"

The Republicans invited the guy to an open, televised Q & A consisting of all GOP, didn't give him any subjects ahead of time, had their best and brightest reading attack-point political statements one after the other, and Obama owned them.

Without a teleprompter in sight

Pretty awesome politics.

Rose colored glasses,anyone??

Obama makes them wet.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Rose colored glasses,anyone??

You didn't watch it, did you?

[timmgirvan]

some of it

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

some of it

Maybe watch the whole thing, if you have the chance. The fun part is how both sides didn't pull any punches. It was far more sharp-edged than the endless debates candidates usually have with each other. The GOP went after the guy on their home ground, prepared, and he had to defend himself.

We rarely get to see that in American politics. It would be better for we voters if we did, I think.

But Obama owned them. Even the GOP admits, afterwards, it was a huge mistake (politically, in retrospect) to let the cameras roll live. They read off their campaign points right to his face, using their best and brightest (Budget members from House, House leadership, etc). and he owned them.

Especially in the end, when he was double-teamed from the audience and the stage, and make them both walk away with their tails between their legs.

The guy knows his stuff, and he objectively deserves the big win for this one.

[Smooth Operator]

Didn't catch any of it … but it sure sounds like BO took the pathetic con obstructionists behind the wood shed … again.


Would be great to see him sit down some time and school those two gabby uneducated blowhards (Limbaugh, Hannity) that show up on my radio everyday. lol

[Riot]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

Yes, this has accompanying comment from "the liberal left wing".

But I looked on FoxNews page, they don't have a link to it

[Danzig]

Yay they debated......but our problems remain. Deeds not words and all that rot. I just wish both sides would quit worrying about sound bites and what side came up with what and move us forward. We're increasingly becoming victims of our two party system

[SCUDSBROTHER]

What came through clearly is that Oba respects their concerns, but often doesn't agree with their solutions. Then, you see the Republicans standing up, and making attacks on him (which he mainly showed to be incorrect.) He explained the economic theory involved with the stimulus plan. Only 1 person said they respected the view. I think he comes across as willing to try anything that has a good chance of actually working for the country. They certainly didn't seem to be the same way.

[Riot]

The uniqueness of this event was that it wasn't about "sound bites" (the President destroyed any chance the GOP would get any out of this).

It was about truth. It was about moving forward. It was bringing together a two-party system, making each side - yeah, Obama included the Dems - responsible for what they say, and DO, or do not do, in Congress. In public.

The GOP Congressional elite stood up and read prepared context, directly to the Prez's face, all the nonsense we've been hearing for the past year - the Prez didn't do this, he didn't listen to them, he didn't read their plans, they have a healthcare plan that will do this, tax cuts, the economy, yak, yak, yak.

He destroyed them with the truth and reality. There were 140 of them, and they were free to publically call him out on anything that he said that wasn't true. They couldn't do it. He knew more about their plans and talking points than they did. He pointed out exactly where they were lying to their constituents, where GOP stuff has indeed been adopted in the past year (tax cuts, health care, etc) . He called them out for boxing themselves into a corner politically, making it impossible for them to be bipartisan in the least.

The last thing this was, was another tepid "political talking points political" redeux.

[Riot]

From WSJ:

At least half a dozen leaders of the Republican Party have joined forces to create a new political group with the goal of organizing grass-roots support and raising funds ahead of the 2010 midterm elections, according to people familiar with the effort.

The organizational details of the group, expected to be called the American Action Network, are still being worked out, but it is expected to contain both a 501(c)3 and a 501(c)4 component. In simpler terms, a 501(c)3 can advocate on policy matters while a 501(c)4 is an election arm.

Republican leaders expected to be affiliated with the group include former Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former Bush adviser Karl Rove, Republican strategist Ed Gillespie, and Republican donor Fred Malek.

A House leadership aide told Washington Wire today that Rob Collins, a political operative and senior aide to House Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia, is leaving Capitol Hill to be the executive director of the 501(c)4.

People familiar with the group said the American Action Network sprung in part out of an unsuccessful effort last year by Republicans called the National Council for a New America which was intended to help redefine the tarnished party brand after the 2008 elections.

Party leaders have found renewed buoyancy following a series of recent election victories and as Republicans stand poised to make further gains in the 2010 elections.

However, Republicans have faced difficulties in recent years to create outside groups to compete with Democratic counterparts like MoveOn. A recent example of those unsuccessful efforts was Freedom’s Watch, a group operated by former Bush administration aides, which sought to be a major player in the 2008 campaign cycle but failed to make a significant impact. It also faced financial and organizational difficulties and closed its doors after the 2008 elections.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Obama sure has a lot of people fooled. It's about what they do, not what they say. I'm really looking forward to the offshore drilling for oil promised in the SOTU.

O'Dumbass didnt fool me, he didnt get my vote in 08 and wont get it in 12 if he is the Democrat nominee for Presindent.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

O'Dumbass didnt fool me, he didnt get my vote in 08 and wont get it in 12 if he is the Democrat nominee for Presindent.

you missed it, man. there was a thread earlier that confirmed he wouldn't even bother running. words from his own mouth.