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Old 11-03-2009, 08:08 PM
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Default Va voters turn on Obama

Well Kev , deeds is out and McDonnell is in


republicans sweep in VA

is NJ next?
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:16 PM
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Well Kev , deeds is out and McDonnell is in


republicans sweep in VA

is NJ next?
What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:18 PM
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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
corzine in trouble in NJ bob not a good night for the dems not matter how you want to paint the picture
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:18 PM
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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
AKA the head of the Florida wing of the Bush Crime Family!
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:21 PM
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AKA the head of the Florida wing of the Bush Crime Family!

funny wasn't it obama main guy from Ill that sent the dead fish to someone on the hill?
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:10 PM
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Well Kev , deeds is out and McDonnell is in


republicans sweep in VA

is NJ next?
Virginia Dems screwed up with Deeds. They had the wrong man in race for Governor. Terry McAullife (spelling?) would have made it a much closer race and possibly a different result. Deeds was just out of his league.

Truth be told Marty, it wasn't a turn on Obama (wow, did I just say that?). This election was all about issues in the Commonwealth and nothing to do with Obama.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:14 PM
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Virginia Dems screwed up with Deeds. They had the wrong man in race for Governor. Terry McAullife (spelling?) would have made it a much closer race and possibly a different result. Deeds was just out of his league.

Truth be told Marty, it wasn't a turn on Obama (wow, did I just say that?). This election was all about issues in the Commonwealth and nothing to do with Obama.

i agree with you on that, it wasn't about obama , but, people are looking for work and they want people held accountable

corzine losing in NJ is a total shock , a heavliy democratic state flips on the the incumbent , obama campaigned heavily for him and could not get him home
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:16 PM
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funny wasn't it obama main guy from Ill that sent the dead fish to someone on the hill?
wannabe! Too many movies in between ballet classes and the Arby's job.

But grew up w/the Winnetka, IL crew.

OK that was a joke!
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:09 PM
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Nobody is surprised VA went Republican (northern VA was the turn) - they have always gone to the opposite party in the first election after Presidential. That was expected.

In New Jersey Governor, Corzine was certainly in deep trouble, so a GOP win there wasn't that big a surprise, either.

In exit polls in both states, the majority of voters said Obama had nothing to do with their vote.

The interesting election is the neck and neck NY House election between "I love Glenn Beck He's My Mentor" ultra-conservative, outside-financed, Sarah Palin endorsed Doug Hoffman, currently having 45% of the vote, and Democrat Bill Owens, currently with 49% of the vote. This is the race where the GOP candidate, the moderate Republican endorsed by Newt Gingrich, Scozzatava (sp?), resigned the race over the weekend at the last minute, and threw her support behind Owens.

If Hoffman loses, that shows the GOP that they can't continue to let the whackjobs control the party; and this is the race that is most predictive to 2010, IMO.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:31 AM
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CNN projects Democrat Bill Owens wins in New York's 23rd congressional district, defeating Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That was a safe seat for a moderate Republican, but they tried to force their more Conservative views on people of this district. Gales, how many Congressman from your State of New York are Republicans? Down to 2 now?

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:08 AM
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CNN projects Democrat Bill Owens wins in New York's 23rd congressional district, defeating Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That was a safe seat for a moderate Republican, but they tried to force their more Conservative views on people of this district. Gales, how many Congressman from your State of New York are Republicans? Down to 2 now?

maybe so but people saying that NJ race meant nothing is a total joke

If it wasn't important to the white house why did they send superman?

Superman showed up last week , but maybe he was too late?

NJ is an overwhelming democratic state and the dems failed there.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:32 AM
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maybe so but people saying that NJ race meant nothing is a total joke

If it wasn't important to the white house why did they send superman?
Of course it meant something. Governors' races are always important to both political parties, and I am sure both the DNC and the White House are disappointed with the results in New Jersey (the result in Virginia - on the other hand - was already expected). That doesn't have to mean that the electorate in these states "turned against" Obama. Although national issues can often have an effect on state and local elections, these things often turn on local issues and/or voter mobilization. I do not claim to know anything about New Jersey or Virginia politics specifically, but my guess would be that a large % of the Obama '08 voters probably stayed home in those states yesterday because they are not regular voters in non-presidential years.
Now, will those voters stay home again in 2012 or turn out again for Obama? It is far too early to predict.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:38 AM
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Of course it meant something. Governors' races are always important to both political parties, and I am sure both the DNC and the White House are disappointed with the results in New Jersey (the result in Virginia - on the other hand - was already expected). That doesn't have to mean that the electorate in these states "turned against" Obama. Although national issues can often have an effect on state and local elections, these things often turn on local issues and/or voter mobilization. I do not claim to know anything about New Jersey or Virginia politics specifically, but my guess would be that a large % of the Obama '08 voters probably stayed home in those states yesterday because they are not regular voters in non-presidential years.
Now, will those voters stay home again in 2012 or turn out again for Obama? It is far too early to predict.

you are correct , 1st time voters and african american turn outs were both down from last year (both of these voters were heavy dem in '08) , so no a lot of what happened in NJ is not a referendum on the white house , but it is a referendum on the Dem party in NJ ....the people who voted yesterday are the ones who always vote and they voted out the incumbent gov in NJ for his specific failure's in not creating jobs and reining in property taxes that continue to spiral upwards as spending stayed high and taxes kept going up. People in NJ had seen eneough out of Corzine, he was failing them.
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What a surprise...it was a shock they voted Dem in the first place

Hows good ole Jeb doing? Gearing up for that big run?

Obama easily in '12
Obama is a "one and done ", and off to building homes with Jimmy Carter.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:49 AM
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Obama is a "one and done ", and off to building homes with Jimmy Carter.
Hopefully DT is around in 2012 because the economy will be back and it should be an interesting election. I'm banking on the Republicans running Romney and I think Obama can defeat him.
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maybe so but people saying that NJ race meant nothing is a total joke

If it wasn't important to the white house why did they send superman?

Superman showed up last week , but maybe he was too late?

NJ is an overwhelming democratic state and the dems failed there.
They barely fkn read there. Corzine is a rich Wall Street guy. Not exactly a sympathetic figure. I probably wouldn't even have voted (unless the fat guy was extreme.)
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:27 AM
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Hopefully DT is around in 2012 because the economy will be back and it should be an interesting election. I'm banking on the Republicans running Romney and I think Obama can defeat him.
There is simply no way this country is gunna have a President that believes those LDS Fairy Tales. If he's so smart, you'd think he would of realized that by now. Ego gets in the way of common sense.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:29 AM
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The people in Virginia and New Jersey have woken up and are sick of the lies that O"Dumbass has told. They decided to take it out on the Democratic party. In Virginia could this be a way of the military and military Retirees getting back at O'Dumbass, since Virginia has a lot of military and military Retirees living there. Thats what he deserves for not giving us Retirees a COLA raise in retirement pay. Food goes up, doesnt it yet the Retiree pay stays the same. Shows what little respect O'Dumbass has for the military and military Retirees. Why should he care, he didnt spend a day in the military. People like myself and the rest of the retirees and active military volunteer so there is no draft and ungrateful people like O'Dumbass dont serve a day in the military.

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I think it might also be possible that both the '08 election and the results yesterday in New Jersey demonstrates simply that those who were in power for the last 3-5 years - perhaps regardless of party - are in trouble. At times anti-incumbent sentiment trumps pro-Democrat or pro-Republican sentiment. It is hard to say for sure, but it seems like the last year or so might be one of those times.
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