Slots for KY tracks

[smuthg]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ing-news/51247

Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said June 15 lawmakers have the authority to allow casino-style gambling at horse tracks without amending the state constitution...

[Riot]

I'm scared they won't have the guts to do it. There's already talk about scraping the evil horror of permitting slot machine gambling - more gambling, my gawd! - and adding an extra tax to lottery tickets instead.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by smuthg

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ing-news/51247

Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said June 15 lawmakers have the authority to allow casino-style gambling at horse tracks without amending the state constitution...

I know he is making his daddy proud.. esp if he gets the slots passed and wins the Senate race in KY.

[ALostTexan]

Not that this is an instant fix, anyway, especially after the Argosy is unveiling this monster very soon.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...0,430004.story

They will still have the Cincinnati market covered with this bad-boy, because Turfway won't be able to build anytime soon, and it looks like Ohio has a very good chance in getting the VLT's pretty soon, too.

It is going to get alot more interesting before it get any clearer...

[Riot]

I'm really worried this won't get passed. There is too much fanatic opposition to adding more gambling outlets (hence the proposal to put a tax on lotto tickets instead); and some want to try and use federal stimulus funds to balance the budget and get us out of debt - eliminating any "states share of VLT's to put us in the black year after year" argument. And McConnell will go whichever way the wind blows - he's not fully aggressive for the horse industry interests. Hope I'm wrong.

[randallscott35]

**** if people want to throw their money away on slots to help racing we should all be for it...There is no dumber game of chance than a slot machine.

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm really worried this won't get passed. There is too much fanatic opposition to adding more gambling outlets (hence the proposal to put a tax on lotto tickets instead); and some want to try and use federal stimulus funds to balance the budget and get us out of debt - eliminating any "states share of VLT's to put us in the black year after year" argument. And McConnell will go whichever way the wind blows - he's not fully aggressive for the horse industry interests. Hope I'm wrong.

So what you're saying, being a republican and whatnot, is that the blame will lie on McConnell for an issue that's at the state level.

Got it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

So what you're saying, being a republican and whatnot, is that the blame will lie on McConnell for an issue that's at the state level.

Got it.

No, you don't (and wow, that chip on your shoulder is heavy, hum? )

I place the blame, if it doesn't pass, on the anti-gambling self-rightous religious zealots that are pounding on the members of the legislature. The only thing that could sway the legislaters vs their constituents is money, as we're in a bad way. Well, they have already come up with the ideas of the 10% lotto tax instead of approving VLT's, and using state stimulus funds instead of any change to current gambling. They are furious over what was said today about the legality (as it eliminates a roadblock).

But McConnell got reelected partly on the promise of slots, and he hasn't exactly been the leader on them. I don't see him exerting the pressure that he could. He won't risk it against the anti-gamblers. All he cares about is getting back to Washington.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, you don't (and wow, that chip on your shoulder is heavy, hum? )

I place the blame, if it doesn't pass, on the anti-gambling self-rightous religious zealots that are pounding on the members of the legislature. The only thing that could sway the legislaters vs their constituents is money, as we're in a bad way. Well, they have already come up with the ideas of the 10% lotto tax instead of approving VLT's, and using state stimulus funds instead of any change to current gambling. They are furious over what was said today about the legality (as it eliminates a roadblock).

But McConnell got reelected partly on the promise of slots, and he hasn't exactly been the leader on them. I don't see him exerting the pressure that he could. He won't risk it against the anti-gamblers. All he cares about is getting back to Washington.

What???

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, you don't (and wow, that chip on your shoulder is heavy, hum? )

I place the blame, if it doesn't pass, on the anti-gambling self-rightous religious zealots that are pounding on the members of the legislature. The only thing that could sway the legislaters vs their constituents is money, as we're in a bad way. Well, they have already come up with the ideas of the 10% lotto tax instead of approving VLT's, and using state stimulus funds instead of any change to current gambling. They are furious over what was said today about the legality (as it eliminates a roadblock).

But McConnell got reelected partly on the promise of slots, and he hasn't exactly been the leader on them. I don't see him exerting the pressure that he could. He won't risk it against the anti-gamblers. All he cares about is getting back to Washington.

Sometimes you have to read between the lines a little. The religious zealots are hardly the issue here. They have been cast as the issue to deflect from the real issue of special interest money and dirty politics. There are some major players behind the scenes that are funding the "opposition" religion groups that haven't walked into a church on purpose for years. Williams proposed the lottery tax/out of state simulcasting tax simply to muddy the waters, not as a plan with any merit or chance of working.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Sometimes you have to read between the lines a little. The religious zealots are hardly the issue here. They have been cast as the issue to deflect from the real issue of special interest money and dirty politics. There are some major players behind the scenes that are funding the "opposition" religion groups that haven't walked into a church on purpose for years. Williams proposed the lottery tax/out of state simulcasting tax simply to muddy the waters, not as a plan with any merit or chance of working.

There it is right there.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ALostTexan

Not that this is an instant fix, anyway, especially after the Argosy is unveiling this monster very soon.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...0,430004.story

They will still have the Cincinnati market covered with this bad-boy, because Turfway won't be able to build anytime soon, and it looks like Ohio has a very good chance in getting the VLT's pretty soon, too.

It is going to get alot more interesting before it get any clearer...

That article is actually from today's (not 12/27/83's ) L'ville Courier-Journal... the new boat is MASSIVE- easily the biggest gambling boat I've ever seen. I went to the old one last Friday, it's closing next Sunday. Going to be rebranded as "Hollywood", a la the Penn National holding.

[otisotisotis]

I was born and raised in Kentucky, and after a few years out of there the one thing that is painfully obvious is that politics always rule the day. Wether it be the county or state level, nothing gets done unless the big fish are getting paid. This is more reason for the mountain boys and less educated areas of the state to just dismiss the VLT idea outright.
Many careers have been made by giving condescending direction to unknowing, apathic constituents and these con artists play it up with the best of them. And as mentioned before, the special interest (i.e. out of state gaming ops) know this well and aren't afraid to lube the squeaky parts.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

There is no dumber game of chance than a slot machine.

I don't think I've agreed more with anything posted here. So true.

[Riot]

For anyone who lives in Kentucky:

KEEP will be holding a Rally in Frankfort on Wednesday, June 17th at 10:00am in the Capitol Rotunda.