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Old 12-09-2008, 10:25 AM
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I was bored and looking through Azeri's lifetime PPs last night. Which grade I or grade II races for older males would a very good, not necessarily all-time great, mare like Azeri have won this year? I'll start the list:

2008 Suburban
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:31 AM
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I was bored and looking through Azeri's lifetime PPs last night. Which grade I or grade II races for older males would a very good, not necessarily all-time great, mare like Azeri have won this year? I'll start the list:

2008 Suburban
Hollywood Gold Cup

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Old 12-09-2008, 10:31 AM
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Wouldn't it be quicker to name the ones she wouldn't have won this year?
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:38 AM
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Wouldn't it be quicker to name the ones she wouldn't have won this year?
Met mile would have been interesting
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:38 PM
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better question...which ones would holy Bull have won?
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:39 PM
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he surely could have won the woodward and Gold Cup. probably the Met mile too.

Pretty good considering he is like 22 years old
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:41 PM
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he surely could have won the woodward and Gold Cup. probably the Met mile too.

Pretty good considering he is like 22 years old
Isn't HB like 17 this year?

He'd probably have won about half of them at his current age. Seriously.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:41 PM
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Hollywood Turf Cup.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:48 PM
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Hollywood Turf Cup.
yeah, but if he would have lost you would have whined about the ride.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:51 PM
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yeah, but if he would have lost you would have whined about the ride.

Still on tilt huh ?
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:52 PM
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Still on tilt huh ?
Nah, im just messin with you.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:54 PM
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Nah, im just messin with you.

Apology IM is next....can't wait.

I will look for it.

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Old 12-09-2008, 01:55 PM
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Apology IM is next....can't wait.

I will look for it.

I dont know what will take longer, you finding that post or you finding your little pee pee.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:29 PM
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Don't know how she would handle a synthetic course but on dirt, it's hard to see any race that was run this year and think that given her running style and ability, she couldn't have won.
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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Don't know how she would handle a synthetic course but on dirt, it's hard to see any race that was run this year and think that given her running style and ability, she couldn't have won.
you think she beats curlin in the stephen foster or DWC?
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:52 PM
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She would have been run into the ground in the Met Mile or Woodward. She would have had a hard time in the slop in the JCGC and the Dubai World Cup would have been a disaster.

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Old 12-09-2008, 03:04 PM
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you think she beats curlin in the stephen foster or DWC?
Perhaps not Dubai. But yeah, I think she could have beaten him in the Foster.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:36 PM
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I dont know what will take longer, you finding that post or you finding your little pee pee.
Did I actually say that a thread you were involved in was excellent. Why don't you attempt to class up just a bit?

Sheesh!
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:35 PM
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Did I actually say that a thread you were involved in was excellent. Why don't you attempt to class up just a bit?

Sheesh!

Wow.....Dalakahni will be pissed at you Vic. I guess he/she/it wont be rooting for Rosario. I am sure Joel will be crushed.
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:17 AM
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I just want to point out for the 27th time that Azeri never lost a two-turn race when she was sent to the early lead.

And she didn't need things her own way either, as evidenced by the 2002 BC Distaff when she went the opening 3/4 in 1:09 and change and ran Imperial Gesture and Jerry Bailey into submission, costing that one 2nd place. Of course, after Azeri spanked Bailey again in the Apple Blossom AND Gor For Wand in 2004, Bailey made sure to get the last laugh at Saratoga when he absolutely destroyed his own mount's chances in the 1 1/4 mile Personal Ensign by sending her to the lead and running the opening 3/4 in 1:09 so that Azeri would not win. Bailey's mount finished butt-naked last, and Azeri got passed late and ran 2nd.

Ok, I'm done. Back to my hole.
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