Azeri to sell at Keeneland Jan Sale

[Merlinsky]

http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/article/48285.htm

In foal to Ghostzapper. I'm a little confused. I mean I get there's a point where it becomes particularly profitable to sell a mare (e.g. she's just had a huge winner) or you're convinced it's all downhill from here cuz she's hard to get in foal, something along those lines. I mean I can use my business head and understand why valuable mares sell without getting emotional. It's just, I don't understand why you'd sell her so soon. I mean this isn't just some mare and supposedly Paulson liked how Vallenzeri turned out. I thought this was some beloved family member he just had to hold onto. I guess there's a limit to the love? It just took me by surprise is all.

Who are we gonna guess takes her? And what are we talking about in terms of price?

[Danzig]

he didn't want to sell vallenzeri, so it makes sense to sell her. you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Who are we gonna guess takes her?

Ferguson

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

And what are we talking about in terms of price?

Meaningless

[Cannon Shell]

She wont sell.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

She wont sell.

Is he pulling more 'I don't really want to sell her I just want to establish a value' weirdness? This is getting annoying if that's true.

[Dr. Watson]

I think breeders might be afraid to buy Azeri because she didn't race until late in her 3yo season and I learned that it means she is way more likely to break down and maybe she will pass along her likelyness of breaking down to future offspring.

or maybe she was always sound but just took a really long time to figure out how to run since its complicated for some horses and breeders dont like breeding slow learning dummies.

that could be Zenyatta's downfall. she sold dirt cheap as a baby even though shes a Street Cry half sister to the awesome mare Balance because buyers must have known that Zenyatta was very likely to break down because she didn't race until her 3yo season and buyers dont want to buy horses who dont race at 2 and are more likely to break down.

either that or they didnt want to spend any more for Zenyatta because they knew she was a slow learning dummy who would take forever to figure out how to run. it is all making sense to me all of a sudden.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Dr. Watson

I think breeders might be afraid to buy Azeri because she didn't race until late in her 3yo season and I learned that it means she is way more likely to break down and maybe she will pass along her likelyness of breaking down to future offspring.

or maybe she was always sound but just took a really long time to figure out how to run since its complicated for some horses and breeders dont like breeding slow learning dummies.

that could be Zenyatta's downfall. she sold dirt cheap as a baby even though shes a Street Cry half sister to the awesome mare Balance because buyers must have known that Zenyatta was very likely to break down because she didn't race until her 3yo season and buyers dont want to buy horses who dont race at 2 and are more likely to break down.

either that or they didnt want to spend any more for Zenyatta because they knew she was a slow learning dummy who would take forever to figure out how to run. it is all making sense to me all of a sudden.

Old school. Well executed.

I'd say you're a Riot...but I'm sure that's not what you want.

I'll dig deeper...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

She wont sell.

I agree 100% I have no clue why he continues to put the mare thru the ring? Maybe it has something to do with insurance or the trust? It can't be about money. I suppose the reserve will be at least 15 million.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dr. Watson

I think breeders might be afraid to buy Azeri because she didn't race until late in her 3yo season and I learned that it means she is way more likely to break down and maybe she will pass along her likelyness of breaking down to future offspring.

or maybe she was always sound but just took a really long time to figure out how to run since its complicated for some horses and breeders dont like breeding slow learning dummies.

that could be Zenyatta's downfall. she sold dirt cheap as a baby even though shes a Street Cry half sister to the awesome mare Balance because buyers must have known that Zenyatta was very likely to break down because she didn't race until her 3yo season and buyers dont want to buy horses who dont race at 2 and are more likely to break down.

either that or they didnt want to spend any more for Zenyatta because they knew she was a slow learning dummy who would take forever to figure out how to run. it is all making sense to me all of a sudden.

The shiek is more afraid oil goes to 25 a barrel then some projection of what an Arezi foal may or may not be.. NO BREEDERS are interested in her because her price.. Nobody could justify making a profit on a 18 million dollar mare.

[Travis Stone]

Azeri and Sightseek at Saratoga is still one of the greatest races I have ever seen.

[Dr. Watson]

I dont think Sightseek debuted until Aug of her 3yo season. shes another who had a real high likelyness of breaking down or was just a really slow learner.

[Travis Stone]

Sightseek was a beast at Belmont, she really elevated her game there.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The shiek is more afraid oil goes to 25 a barrel then some projection of what an Arezi foal may or may not be.. NO BREEDERS are interested in her because her price.. Nobody could justify making a profit on a 18 million dollar mare.

Sh Mo makes more money from his real estate holding than oil. His holdings in oil are relatively small. I say they are trying to establish a price and wont sell.

As for Zenyatta being cheap, look at when she sold. In Sept of 05, Balance was a maiden winner and Street Cry hadn't let the world on fire. Most people figured that Street Cry's would get better with age and distance but in terms of sales price (a function of brilliance) they SC's were not selling for huge money. The costs assosiated with a late developer mean lower prices at sales.

[CSC]

Frankel was winning everything in sight during those yrs, if he sent out a donkey it would have probably been a graded stks winner. Azeri raced under two pretty mediocre trainers to be nice, and considering what she done on the track given the circumstances her career was quite remarkable I thought.

[Dr. Watson]

Yep! and she pwned Sister Girl Blues and Tropical Blossom. beat their pants off race after race after race on the left coast.

[Habersham000]

Originally Posted by Dr. Watson

I think breeders might be afraid to buy Azeri because she didn't race until late in her 3yo season and I learned that it means she is way more likely to break down and maybe she will pass along her likelyness of breaking down to future offspring.

or maybe she was always sound but just took a really long time to figure out how to run since its complicated for some horses and breeders dont like breeding slow learning dummies.

that could be Zenyatta's downfall. she sold dirt cheap as a baby even though shes a Street Cry half sister to the awesome mare Balance because buyers must have known that Zenyatta was very likely to break down because she didn't race until her 3yo season and buyers dont want to buy horses who dont race at 2 and are more likely to break down.

either that or they didnt want to spend any more for Zenyatta because they knew she was a slow learning dummy who would take forever to figure out how to run. it is all making sense to me all of a sudden.

What does not running as a two year old have anything to do with break down rates??? I need to wave the on this insightful post

[Dr. Watson]

(Pub Med) and enter the search terms racehorse bone and come up with tons of interesting articles about racehorse exercise physiology.

it will change your life. or at least the way you think.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Linny

Sh Mo makes more money from his real estate holding than oil. His holdings in oil are relatively small. I say they are trying to establish a price and wont sell.

As for Zenyatta being cheap, look at when she sold. In Sept of 05, Balance was a maiden winner and Street Cry hadn't let the world on fire. Most people figured that Street Cry's would get better with age and distance but in terms of sales price (a function of brilliance) they SC's were not selling for huge money. The costs assosiated with a late developer mean lower prices at sales.

Not exactly and his island is sinking..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Linny

Sh Mo makes more money from his real estate holding than oil. His holdings in oil are relatively small. I say they are trying to establish a price and wont sell.

As for Zenyatta being cheap, look at when she sold. In Sept of 05, Balance was a maiden winner and Street Cry hadn't let the world on fire. Most people figured that Street Cry's would get better with age and distance but in terms of sales price (a function of brilliance) they SC's were not selling for huge money. The costs assosiated with a late developer mean lower prices at sales.

Although Dubai oil is only about 6% of Dubai GNP.. the Emirates have 15% of the worlds reserves..I think it's safe to say it is all one big happy family when it counts.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by Dr. Watson

I dont think Sightseek debuted until Aug of her 3yo season. shes another who had a real high likelyness of breaking down or was just a really slow learner.

You have got to be kidding me. You obviously never owned horses or you would know there are a ton of reasons a horse might not race until its 3 yo season. What a joke.