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Old 04-04-2008, 07:41 AM
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Default 4/4: Keeneland Selections (7th-10th)

Thursday Aqueduct P6 and P4 tries were upended with 2nds in the 6th and 8th, but the rest of the day was outstanding capped by the day-making trifecta in the nightcap which was offered out 'straight'. How Del Carroll and Pont St. Stables' Key Victory was allowed to go off at 46-1 is a mystery, as he appeared to me the next most logical win candidate past the overdue and obvious winner. His $23.40 place price tripped the $603.00 ($2) triple when he passed After Colin (16-1, $7.20) in deep stretch.

Earlier in the 7th, Carlos Martin's Aunt Marge ($12.60), who I saw as a P6 single but the public embraced only modestly, started another nice triple crushing the Karakorum entry (3-2 fave) behind her with Schwartz' Sounds Tacky (11-1) third. The tri came back $144.00 ($2), and this was a spot where not offering superfectas everywhere they could be offered, hurts... Inclusion Ommadon's Storm was 4th, (for wagering purposes), at 43-1, and the payoff would have been enormous. The NYS Racing and Wagering Board refuses to allow NYRA to offer supers on all races that 'qualify' for them, and it just continues to boggle the mind as to why.

Hope you did well Thursday!

Keeneland starts its' three week Spring Meet today, and though the weather is expected to be nasty, it's always great to have KEE back in the PP's... Expect al grass races to be switched to the 'all-weather'...


KEENELAND


7th: ALW/N1X, F&M-4+, 9f-T (P4, P3, Super)

OFF THE TURF

Most Likely: #4 Crystal Minuet 7-2 4th
Next Best: #3 Communique 9-5 WON
Best Value: #6 Brantley 6-1 6th
Exotics Add: #1 SCR (Substitute #12 Madame Brillon 10-1 2nd; #7 Ardnavagh 8-1 5th)


8th: OC/N$Y, F&M-4+, 6f (P3, Super)

BEST VALUE: #7 DARING JULIE 15-1 7th
Most Likely: #8 Kindling 7-2 4th
Next Best: #5 Girls Pearls 6-1 8th
Exotics Add: #3 You Go West Girl 2-1 WON


9th: 20th Transylvania (Gr. III), 3yo, 8.5f-T (DD, Super)

OFF THE TURF...

Protecting #4 Prussian in P4, P3's..

Most Likely: #3 Barrier Reef 7-2 7th
Next Best: #1 Riley Tucker 4-1 2nd
Best Value: #6 Budge Man 15-1 3rd
Exotics Add: #8 Free Fighter 4-1 5th


10th: ALW/N2L, 3yo, 7f ($1 Super Hi-5, .10 Super)

Most Likely: #11 Arizona 5-1 7th
Best Value: #8 Iron Works Pike 8-1 2nd
Next Best: #7 The Darp 9-2 8th
Hi 5 Adds: #9 Talk of a Cat 7-2 4th

<$50 Hi 5 Play: 11/7-8/4-7-8-9-12/4-7-8-9-12/4-7-8-9-12 (1x2x4x3x2 = $48)


<$50 P4 Play:

7: 3-4-[6-7]
8: 3-5-7-8
9: 1-3-4
10: 11 (7-8)

4x4x3x1 = $48 (Backup: 2x4x3x2 = $48; Full: 4x4x3x3 = $144)


Good luck!
Steve
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:48 PM
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This is 4/4/08 right?
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:07 PM
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:08 PM
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Quick question, will the G3 race today that has been taken off the turf count towards Graded stakes earning? or does the race lose the graded status because of the surface switch???
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:09 PM
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Quick question, will the G3 race today that has been taken off the turf count towards Graded stakes earning? or does the race lose the graded status because of the surface switch???
Pretty sure it loses it's grade.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:11 PM
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Pretty sure it loses it's grade.
That is what I thought, but I am not 100%....Because if it doesn't, this worked out perfect for Barrier Reef. Maybe the Shiek has the greatest weather predictor ever and this was all part of his plan
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:26 PM
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Pretty sure it loses it's grade.
Not necessarily... they "regrade" it after seeing who scratches and stays in. My guess is it will NOT lose it's grade, as they've been kind in the past on turf-to-poly if the main contenders stay in (such as last year's Jenny Wiley).
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:27 PM
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Not necessarily... they "regrade" it after seeing who scratches and stays in. My guess is it will NOT lose it's grade, as they've been kind in the past on turf-to-poly if the main contenders stay in (such as last year's Jenny Wiley).
Then the Shiek has the greatest weather predictor of all time. Even better then 'da Skill' who is better known as Tom Skilling.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:27 PM
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Thursday Aqueduct P6 and P4 tries were upended with 2nds in the 6th and 8th, but the rest of the day was outstanding capped by the day-making trifecta in the nightcap which was offered out 'straight'. How Del Carroll and Pont St. Stables' Key Victory was allowed to go off at 46-1 is a mystery, as he appeared to me the next most logical win candidate past the overdue and obvious winner. His $23.40 place price tripped the $603.00 ($2) triple when he passed After Colin (16-1, $7.20) in deep stretch.

Earlier in the 7th, Carlos Martin's Aunt Marge ($12.60), who I saw as a P6 single but the public embraced only modestly, started another nice triple crushing the Karakorum entry (3-2 fave) behind her with Schwartz' Sounds Tacky (11-1) third. The tri came back $144.00 ($2), and this was a spot where not offering superfectas everywhere they could be offered, hurts... Inclusion Ommadon's Storm was 4th, (for wagering purposes), at 43-1, and the payoff would have been enormous. The NYS Racing and Wagering Board refuses to allow NYRA to offer supers on all races that 'qualify' for them, and it just continues to boggle the mind as to why.

Hope you did well Thursday!

Keeneland starts its' three week Spring Meet today, and though the weather is expected to be nasty, it's always great to have KEE back in the PP's... Expect al grass races to be switched to the 'all-weather'...


KEENELAND


7th: ALW/N1X, F&M-4+, 9f-T (P4, P3, Super)

OFF THE TURF

Most Likely: #4 Crystal Minuet 7-2
Next Best: #3 Communique 9-5
Best Value: #6 Brantley 6-1
Exotics Add: #1 SCR (Substitute #12 Madame Brillon 10-1; #7 Ardnavagh 8-1)


8th: OC/N$Y, F&M-4+, 6f (P3, Super)

BEST VALUE: #7 DARLING JULIE 15-1
Most Likely: #8 Kindling 7-2
Next Best: #5 Girls Pearls 6-1
Exotics Add: #3 You Go West Girl 2-1


9th: 20th Transylvania (Gr. III), 3yo, 8.5f-T (DD, Super)

OFF THE TURF...

Protecting #4 Prussian in P4, P3's..

Most Likely: #3 Barrier Reef 7-2
Next Best: #1 Riley Tucker 4-1
Best Value: #6 Budge Man 15-1
Exotics Add: #8 Free Fighter 4-1


10th: ALW/N2L, 3yo, 7f ($1 Super Hi-5, .10 Super)

Most Likely: #11 Arizona 5-1
Best Value: #8 Iron Works Pike 8-1
Next Best: #7 The Darp 9-2
Hi 5 Adds: #9 Talk of a Cat 7-2

<$50 Hi 5 Play: 11/7-8/4-7-8-9-12/4-7-8-9-12/4-7-8-9-12 (1x2x4x3x2 = $48)


<$50 P4 Play:

7: 3-4-[6-7]
8: 3-5-7-8
9: 1-3-4
10: 11 (7-8)

4x4x3x1 = $48 (Backup: 2x4x3x2 = $48; Full: 4x4x3x3 = $144)


Good luck!
Steve

i played the late pick 3 and 4... i disagree strongly with your plays.... here goes my 2 bets....


Race # 7 $1 pick 4 wheel

# 5 Impressionism is a single in my opinion. i feel strong that she improves tons this year,

in the 8th i went 4 deep 2,3,5,8

in the 9th i used the 2 mott horses, i think they can control this race and run 1-2 either way

in the 10th i love The Darp, but i also used Talk of a Cat,


2 plays $16 dollers each, played the same pick 3 just incase my 5 does not with the 7th

good luck
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:30 PM
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Then the Shiek has the greatest weather predictor of all time. Even better then 'da Skill' who is better known as Tom Skilling.
why does it matter ? the horse is well bred for turf.

lets say it stayed on the turf, he runs big...
they could still sneak into the derby.
not that it matters anyway, because the mott horses are just better
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:35 PM
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i played the late pick 3 and 4... i disagree strongly with your plays.... here goes my 2 bets....


Race # 7 $1 pick 4 wheel

# 5 Impressionism is a single in my opinion. i feel strong that she improves tons this year,

in the 8th i went 4 deep 2,3,5,8

in the 9th i used the 2 mott horses, i think they can control this race and run 1-2 either way

in the 10th i love The Darp, but i also used Talk of a Cat,


2 plays $16 dollers each, played the same pick 3 just incase my 5 does not with the 7th

good luck

Uhm....ya
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:20 PM
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PG - What happened to your derby horse? 26 and 51 too fast for him?
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