Encosta De Lago

[pmayjr]

In the past couple of months, I've really gotten into betting Australian Racing. There is a sire I see a lot that I've never heard of. His name is
Encosta De Lago

He seems to be the sire of so many of the horses there, that I felt the need to finally look up some info on him. It seems outside of the U.S. this sire has some clout. Here's some info about him if you've never heard of him-

http://www.pedigreequery.com/encosta+de+lago
http://www.coolmore.com/stallions/au..._lago/?vid=174
http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38093

The last link I find the most interesting.

[NoChanceToDance]

I know very little about him, apart from the fact he is like the Danehill and Sadler's Wells of Australia, i think. Or the Storm Cat or AP Indy on Australia for you guys, i guess.

Magic Idol will no doubt fill all of us Australian novices in about this stallion. Fountain of information, that guy.

[magic_idol]

a Great stallion his stud fee would you believe was 7,000 & then along came ahlingi & things changed was bought by one of the big studs & now has a service fee of 150,000 ,
the foals are usually stocky sturdy animals with great temperaments just about bought 1 for 30,000 a few years ago was one of the last 7,000 lots lost the bid tho & it went for 31,000
alot of the little trainers did really well with him,
It was a pity Ahlingi had already bleed when she went to america so was only half herself.
Pecking order in Australia
1 Redoutes choice
2 Alihgni
3 Exceed & Excell

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by magic_idol

a Great stallion his stud fee would you believe was 7,000 & then along came ahlingi & things changed was bought by one of the big studs & now has a service fee of 150,000 alot of the little trainers did really well with him,
It was a pity Ahlingi had already bleed when she went to america so was only half herself.
Pecking order in australia
1 Redoutes choice
2 Alihgni
3 Exceed & Excell

Oh right. I was under the impression that this guy dominated the stallion scene in Oz.

Shows how much i know

[magic_idol]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Oh right. I was under the impression that this guy dominated the stallion scene in Oz.

Shows how much i know

He would be close its the usual story ,The bigger the fee the better the mares & thus the better the foals, all 3 are Sprinters with early 2 year olds

[pmayjr]

You're right, there are a lot of Redoute Choices there too

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by magic_idol

He would be close its the usual story ,The bigger the fee the better the mares & thus the better the foals, all 3 are Sprinters with early 2 year olds

Just from looking at the racing guides provided to us here in the U.S. for wagering, it just looks like there are a lot of horses with Encosta as the sire.

But you're right, there are a lot of Redoutes as well. Dangerous, Be Esprit, Tessa Rossa, Terrific, and Hurricane Sky seem to be other major players you see a lot of.

What I notice, is as far as the American handle goes, we'll bet sires we reckognize. You'll see Rock of Gibraltor, Tale of the Cat (Storm Cat), Distorted Humor, and others with reckognizeable names from time to time.

[pmayjr]

The long and the short of it, with the huge fields, I'm addicted to it. I thinking it would do a lot better in the U.S. if it were in the Daily Racing Form though. Handle would rise huge if they could work an agreement for that.

[theiman]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

In the past couple of months, I've really gotten into betting Australian Racing. There is a sire I see a lot that I've never heard of. His name is
Encosta De Lago

He seems to be the sire of so many of the horses there, that I felt the need to finally look up some info on him. It seems outside of the U.S. this sire has some clout. Here's some info about him if you've never heard of him-

http://www.pedigreequery.com/encosta+de+lago
http://www.coolmore.com/stallions/au..._lago/?vid=174
http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38093

The last link I find the most interesting.

The big girl was supposed to bred to him until the EI outbreak

Makybe Diva Changes from Encosta de Lago to Fusaichi Pegasus
by Ric Chapman
Date Posted: September 17, 2007
Last Updated: September 18, 2007

Australia's greatest racemare Makybe Diva, who last month gave birth to a wonderful looking and leggy son by Galileo, was going to be sent to superstar stallion Encosta de Lago this year.

However, that stallion is in lockdown at Eastern Creek's quarantine facility and it appears he will not get out this year.

As a result, the Champion mare's connections have chosen former Champion and Kentucky Derby winner Fusaichi Pegasus as her beau this year.

The 3-time gr 1 Melbourne Cup winner Makybe Diva (Desert King-Tugela) was covered by fellow Coolmore sire Fusaichi Pegasus on Monday in Australia. She won Aus$14,526,500 in purse money while racing and has been labelled the best horse since Phar Lap to race in Australia.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/articleind...e.asp?id=40847

[magic_idol]

If you want to find out all there is about australian stallions & their bloodlines

http://www.stallions.com.au/ is the best site by far & its free click on all stallions to see the whole lot or cruise the 2 year old form section that gives there sire & the price they were sold for as yearlings,
you will see artie shiller, Street cry,barnadi, Henny hughes to name a few that stand here

just go here http://www.stallions.com.au/list/Encosta_de_Lago.asp
if you just want to see ecosta.










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[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by magic_idol

just go here http://www.stallions.com.au/list/Encosta_de_Lago.asp
if you just want to see ecosta.

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Off topic but thanks for the site.....

I had lost it when my computer crashed and it's nice to see this again, especially the sirecam.

Be still my heart.....

http://www.stallions.com.au/list/Rakti.asp

http://www.stallions.com.au/list/rakti_video.asp

Actually, Encosta's fee is normally a lot higher from memory. Approx $235,000 but was dropped due to the EI.

Its a battle between himself and Redoutes Choice for top honours, but now we have Rock Of Gibrator moving up the ranks fairly quickly.

Not a big fan of Encosta myself.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Both Encosta de Lago and Redoute's Choice tend to produce "sprinty" runners. Redoute's Choice is the Australian Storm Cat, and Encosta de Lago is gaining to share that title. I've seen some Encosta de Lago's run at 2000m. and up (I think Anamato is such a horse; she ran 3rd in the American Oaks at Hollywood this July), but generally, I'm suspicious of their progeny at distances beyond 1800m. I should amend and say that there are more de Lago's get running at that distance and beyond than there are Redoute Choice's offspring.

Its a battle between himself and Redoutes Choice for top honours, but now we have ROCK OF GIBRALTOR moving up the ranks fairly quickly. - A snippet from Tierce Surprise's reply.

I've seen more than a few Rock O's running down there in maiden plates and stuff. I also saw a few running at 'Toga this summer in MSW's there (and they did quite well). But they also seem "sprinty". Just based on Rock's choice distance of a mile, I'd bet his progeny at a mile and under.

[pmayjr]

Just a little FYI for those that might not know-
A mile is a little over 1600 meters.

The racing guides available to us through
http://www.australianracing.com (who also handles the U.S. simulcast feed)
converts the distances to furlongs and miles, so it's easier for us Americans to understand how far they're going. THE RACING GUIDES ARE FREE IF YOU SIGN UP THROUGH THE WEBSITE (with past performances in them).

An FYI to understand how Australia runs things is better shown here. It's actually very informative and helpful, and gives and example of a past performance as well.
http://www.australianracing.com/inde...3&section_id=3

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Cardus

If you want to watch some recent Aussie history, go to Youtube and type the following names:

Makybe Diva (incomparable!)
Sunline
Northerly
Lonhro

There might be a Might and Power video or two.

I started following Aussie racing in late 2001, but didn't start watching it until 2002. I missed a "Golden Era" by joining in after Sunline and Northerly's runs as top horses ended. Sunline ran real "lung busters" on the engine; she is a beloved mare and was the top earner until Makybe Diva came along. In 2004-2005, at least half of the top races that I saw included The Diva.

Northerly is a West Australian icon, and ran a lot of his races near the front. Lonhro was Sydney-based, and the Northerly backers love to take pot shots at him for not winning the Cox Plate; his best work was done in New South Wales. He was a wonderful horse, though.

As for the wagering, I LOVE the boxcar payoffs. When you're sitting on a triple that, after looking at the payoff, you figure that maybe a handful of guys -- less than five -- have it, it's a great feeling.

Enjoy the racing.

Thanks for the recommendations. I have no doubt that top-level Aussie racing can run with anywhere else in the world. But yeah, I'm just in it for the huge fields, no matter what the class level. As far as U.S. racing goes, I know I'm in the minority on this, but I love crap claiming races. The famous 5kN2l At Mountaineer lol. So just gimme a race with large competitive fields, regardless of class, and I'm hooked.

Ill take Alinghi over Miss Finland any day. Definately in the minority when i say i dislike the mare, for me shes too up and down in form.
Redoutes definately sires the most wich can go the longer distances, but Encosta the better sprinter.
But id take a Rock Of G horse over both of them anyday. Cant half tell where my aliance lies

Oh, also for those who dont know, a furlong is equal roughly to 200m. So a 1600m race is a mile, and also known as 8 furlongs.

A straight six, is 1200m down a straight like Flemington.

Yes true, but at least Alinghi was consistent.

[magic_idol]

1. SACRED KINGDOM (AUS)
b g 4 Encosta de Lago - Courtroom Sweetie by Zeditave
2. Absolute Champion (AUS)
b g 6 Marauding (NZ) - Beauty Belle by ideal Planet
3. Royal Delight (AUS)
br g 5 Commands - Conquered by Star Watch
Margins: 2 1/4 len. 1/2 len. Time:1m 8.4s



What the hell is a marauding doing in there

LOL. Now that shows just how breeding can provide the unexpected Idol!!