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Old 06-28-2007, 10:30 AM
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Godolphin day at Belmont.....

The return of Leo (finally!), Minefield possible, Palace Episode and Mathman..... can't wait!

Belmont Park - June 29th, 2007 - Race 6
Estimated Local Post Time: 5:32 PM
Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward
Purse: $47,000
Distance: Seven Furlongs
Surface: Turf
Post Horse
Jockey
Owner Age Sex Weight
Trainer
Breeder Odds Claiming Price

1 Kennel Up (FL)
Eibar Coa
Winning Move Stable
6 Horse 121
Kim Laudati
J. V. Shields Jr. 6/1 $50,000

2 Coach Kent (FL)
Raul I. Rojas
Seventeen Racing Stable
4 Colt 121
Frank J. Russo
Mr. & Mrs. Samuel H. Rogers Jr. 20/1 $0

3 Silver Timber (NY)
Cornelio H. Velasquez
Invictus Farm
4 Colt 121
Linda Rice
Sez Who Thoroughbreds 9/5 $0

4 Out of Gwedda (KY)
Kent J. Desormeaux
Pegasus Dream Stable
3 Colt 116
William Badgett, Jr.
James H. Heyward 5/1 $0

5 Leo (GB)
Edgar S. Prado
Godolphin Stable
4 Gelding 121
Saeed bin Suroor
Hascombe and Valiant Studs 2/1 $0

6 Bon Marie (FL)
Channing Hill
Pearson, Max, H.
6 Gelding 121
W. Robert Bailes
Marablue Farm 8/1 $50,000

7 Ryan Is Flying (NY)
Fernando Jara
Ricatto, Jr., Michael
7 Gelding 121
Diane Balsamo
Teresa Maher 12/1 $50,000

8 True Cause (KY)
Garrett K. Gomez
Godolphin Stable
4 Colt 121
Saeed bin Suroor
Darley 2/1 $0

MTO Graynumberfive (MD)
Michael J. Luzzi
McRacehorse Stable
4 Colt 121
Leah Gyarmati
Bittersweet Farm & T. Mason Grasty 6/1 $50,000

MTO Bold Mon (KY)
Cornelio H. Velasquez
Clear Stars Stable
4 Colt 121
Richard E. Schosberg
Pollock Farms 10/1 $50,000

MTO Minefield (KY)
Garrett K. Gomez
Godolphin Stable
3 Colt 116
Saeed bin Suroor
Ashby Thoroughbreds 2/1 $0

MTO Rumspringa (KY)

Winning Move Stable, Lerner, Harold, Celebrity Group Stables
5 Gelding 121
Kim Laudati
Nancy C. Shuford 6/1 $50,000



Belmont Park - June 29th, 2007 - Race 8
Estimated Local Post Time: 6:36 PM
Race Type: Allowance Optional Claiming
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Purse: $50,000
Distance: One Mile
Surface: Turf

1 Mathematician (IRE)
Garrett K. Gomez
Godolphin Stable
5 Horse 120
Saeed bin Suroor
Barouche Stud Ireland Ltd 3/1 $0

2 Raceland (NY)
Eibar Coa
Michael T. Martin
4 Gelding 120
Richard A. Violette, Jr.
Michael T. Martin 15/1 $0

3 Rock Lobster (FL)
Kent J. Desormeaux
Pompa, Jr., Paul, P.
4 Colt 120
Patrick L. Reynolds
Luis de Hechavarria 5/1 $0

4 Thunder Pass (KY)
Javier Castellano
Dogwood Stable
4 Colt 120
Frank A. Alexander
Mrs. J. G. Jones Sr., D. R. Houchin,J. W. Hirshmann, R. J. Sullivan et al 12/1 $0

5 El Prado Rob (KY)
Channing Hill
Ochre House Stable
6 Horse 120
Glenn B. DiSanto
Mill Ridge Farm, Ltd., Dr. John A Chandler, C. R. McGaughey III & Jamm, Ltd 12/1 $75,000

6 Woodlander (KY)
Cornelio H. Velasquez
Winning Move Stable, Minnella, Martin, J.
5 Horse 120
Kim Laudati
Mike Connelly 8/1 $75,000

7 Real Quality (IA)
Alan Garcia
Three Gin Guys Stable
5 Gelding 120
Thomas Albertrani
Woodsfield Farm 6/1 $0

8 Palace Episode (KY)
Jean-Luc Samyn
Godolphin Stable
4 Colt 120
Saeed bin Suroor
Catesby W. Clay & Runnymede Farm Inc. 3/1 $0

9 Giant Basil (FL)
Edgar S. Prado
Live Oak Plantation
4 Colt 123
Robert J. Frankel
Live Oak Stud 9/5 $0
MTO Thundering Success (FL)
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:39 AM
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Where exactly do these Godolphin horses that are constantly returning off layoffs of over a year go during their respective hiatuses? Poor Leo was yet another victim of their incessant private purchases.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:44 AM
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I believe Leo left Dubai for Belmont at the end of January.....

Some of their horses do quite well after the long layoffs..... Afrashad, Army of Angels, I believe Librettist as well.....

Aaaah well. Wish i were going.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:52 AM
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The reality is these Godolphin horses are being dramatically overbet, one after the other, and pretty much severely underperforming their odds. Sure, they have some exceptional talents, and these horses can overcome the layoffs ( though moreso in Europe ), but people are betting year plus layoff horses as though there is nothing to be concerned about. This is most certainly a recipe for pari-mutual disaster. Case in point, Mathematician in tomorrow's 8th race.....why on earth would anyone take 3:1 on him last time?

To be honest, the most interesting Godolphin entrant tomorrow is buried on the AEs as an MTO in Leo's race......Minefield. A lot of people, myself not included, were excited by him last year. Personally I'm surprised to see Godolphin rushing him back after just seven months. Certainly he needs another six to ten months to really be ready for another race.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:54 AM
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I hope it's not Godolphin's day. My boy El Prado Rob (see avatar) is in the 8th.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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Personally I'm surprised to see Godolphin rushing him back after just seven months. Certainly he needs another six to ten months to really be ready for another race.
Priceless!

I understand your thoughtful analysis and good points all.....

It's just that i look at the same thing through different eyes.

Very happy to see both Leo and Palace Episode entered.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
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I hope it's not Godolphin's day. My boy El Prado Rob (see avatar) is in the 8th.
Good luck to your boy!
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:06 AM
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Very happy to see both Leo and Palace Episode entered.

I'm always glad to see these horses back, though I wish they came back more often and after less of a layoff, but from a betting standpoint these Godolphin horses are usually reasonable bet againsts.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:12 AM
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I hope it's not Godolphin's day. My boy El Prado Rob (see avatar) is in the 8th.
Hossy?
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:14 AM
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You callin' me a hossy?
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
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You callin' me a hossy?

Ahm aksin' you if you IS Hossy.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:50 PM
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Nope. Not Hossy. No alias here, I am just Linny. I thought you might be fixin' for a rodeo.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:12 PM
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Nah.


But the real Hossy handicaps as though he were reading from a rodeo program which is why I thoug.......oh never mind.
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