Saratoga Wagering Menu Changed (a little bit)

[alphanumeric1]

New this year will be rolling daily doubles (the wager will be offered pending approval by the New York State Racing and Wagering Board.).

I am glad to see this bet added to the menu at the Spa. This made me wonder what bets you find yourself playing the most and why?

For me , I am a big fan of the picks 3 and 4 but from an economic standpoint, the takeout makes the double and exacta better values (17.5%). WPS remain at 14% but I love multi-race wagers.

[blackthroatedwind]

Actually, because of dispersal, it is relatively the same to bet a double at 17.5% as it is to bet a Pick-3 at 25%. The Pick-4, at 25%, is the best of the three choices.

[VOL JACK]

Im still trying to show a profit with my win bets.

Very good way to see who is going to take action the next race, at least it is at CD. i.e the R Nicks firster today. Took tons of action in the DD they came on the board at 1-1 and stayed there until the Assmu took all the late $$, the Nicks ended up paying $8.40

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, because of dispersal, it is relatively the same to bet a double at 17.5% as it is to bet a Pick-3 at 25%. The Pick-4, at 25%, is the best of the three choices.

Was going to say that as well. The Pick 4 and Pick 6 are actually the best value in terms of takeout in multi-race wagers.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Was going to say that as well. The Pick 4 and Pick 6 are actually the best value in terms of takeout in multi-race wagers.

ok this might sound crazy, and maybe its not even the place to ask this, but i have a question !

the guy above said he is still trying to have a positive return on his win bets, depending on how you look at it, cant you actually make more money and have a better ROI, playing pick 3 and 4 then you would have, by making just win bets. when you make a win bet you bet 1 horse, when you play pick 3 and 4, you can go as many deep as you wish, therefore isen't it almost easier to cash a pick 3 or 4 ?

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

ok this might sound crazy, and maybe its not even the place to ask this, but i have a question !

the guy above said he is still trying to have a positive return on his win bets, depending on how you look at it, cant you actually make more money and have a better ROI, playing pick 3 and 4 then you would have, by making just win bets. when you make a win bet you bet 1 horse, when you play pick 3 and 4, you can go as many deep as you wish, therefore isen't it almost easier to cash a pick 3 or 4 ?

Im honored you refer to me now as "the guy above".
I read in one of DRF books that Andy is in, 'if you cant make a profit betting to win you are gonna have a hard time making money in exotics.' I think it was six secrets of successful bettors/
I think it boils down to betting too many races, being a once-twice a week guy without an internet acct. I'll usually play 90% of the races at Bel and CD, such as today.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Im honored you refer to me now as "the guy above".
I read in one of DRF books that Andy is in, 'if you cant make a profit betting to win you are gonna have a hard time making money in exotics.' I think it was six secrets of successful bettors/
I think it boils down to betting too many races, being a once-twice a week guy without an internet acct. I'll usually play 90% of the races at Bel and CD, such as today.

im sorry JACK, but i disagree, i seem to struggle when it comes to picking 1 horse to win a race, but i can put in a 2-2-2 pick 3 and do well, or a 3-3-2-2 pick 4 and hit for almost 10k, and a lot of ppl would not even consider that going deep, so its not like you can say im just tossing any or all horses in, i used to go to the track or otb and only make win/place bets, now 95% of my bets are pick 3 and 4

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, because of dispersal, it is relatively the same to bet a double at 17.5% as it is to bet a Pick-3 at 25%. The Pick-4, at 25%, is the best of the three choices.

25%...man that is just criminal

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

25%...man that is just criminal

Yeah, especially compared to the 60% takeout for the lotto.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

25%...man that is just criminal

Did you read any of what you quoted?

[blackthroatedwind]

He's joking.

[parsixfarms]

Any idea what they are doing with supers this year? I read one story in which it seemed that they were only going to have a super on the 9th race. Is this correct? What about dime supers as well?