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Old 01-30-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Holy Bull

Anyone know if Green Vegas is goin to Holy Bull on Sat??
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:43 PM
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It's been pretty quiet as to who is pointed to this weekend's 3-yo races at GP, but I expected to see him there, or in the Swale.
Other horses that i'm GUESSING are looking at 1 of these 2 races include Cowtown Cat, Incriminate, Out of Gwedda, Scat daddy, Righteous, Consecration, CP West, Came to Pass, along with No Biz Like Show Biz.

These are just guesses, so anyone with more information, please share...
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:19 PM
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It's been pretty quiet as to who is pointed to this weekend's 3-yo races at GP, but I expected to see him there, or in the Swale.
Other horses that i'm GUESSING are looking at 1 of these 2 races include Cowtown Cat, Incriminate, Out of Gwedda, Scat daddy, Righteous, Consecration, CP West, Came to Pass, along with No Biz Like Show Biz.

These are just guesses, so anyone with more information, please share...
I would love to see Scat Daddy... I like him and Liquidity as my derby horses so far. (Long time til the first Saturday in May.)
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:26 PM
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I would love to see Scat Daddy... I like him and Liquidity as my derby horses so far. (Long time til the first Saturday in May.)
I think Liquidity is running in the Sham Stakes at santa Anita this weekend.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:33 PM
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Confirmed!!

Swale-- Cowtown Cat

Holy Bull-- Scat Daddy, No Biz, Drums of Thunder
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:41 PM
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go to horsemen, then stakes, then scroll down the stakes list and you will see the nominations, the pps of those in the race and weights.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:17 PM
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how does everyone think this race will be bet ? no biz really big fav or is it a 6-5, 2-1 thing with scat daddy ?
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:25 PM
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go to horsemen, then stakes, then scroll down the stakes list and you will see the nominations, the pps of those in the race and weights.
I usually look at the nominations, but they don't always seem accurate to me (or up to date..especially the Santa Anita stakes noms..).
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:35 PM
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I was about ready to put Nobiz Like Shobiz in the Hall of Fame off his debut performance---it looked a tremendous performance from all aspects, and so much more impressive when you considered that he's by a sire who's one of the last names you'd think of to get an early developing type...who'd throw an effort like that in debut.

Nobiz ran a faster time in debut, than multiple Grade 1 winner Pine Island did in victory on that same card. He was also only marginally slower than Valid Notebook...who looked like a pretty hard hitting 3yo colt at the time.

I've kind of revised my opinion some about his debut being some kind of otherworldly performance---as Pine Island probably wasn't as much as I thought she might have been, and everything she beat that day was very bad. Valid Notebook hasn't exactly gone forward any sense that race.

I've kind of backpeddled some on Nobiz since his debut---while other people seem to be jumping on his bandwagon based on his two races against stakes company.

He's obviously a very serious 3yo anyway. He will be a clear-cut favorite on Saturday.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:58 PM
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Obviously he's a 4YO, but I have heard that Keyed Entry is making a reappearance at Gulfstream this weekend, though I don't know for sure.

Perhaps he will perform more miracles in his first start or two this year before fizzling out into non-existance.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:00 PM
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I'm rooting for NoBiz, but Scat Daddy will be very tough this weekend. First of all, it's a mile around one turn which willsuit Scat Daddy very well, and his ride and trip in the BC were far from terrific. But, more importantly, the horses from that barn have been literally running out of their skin the last week or so at Gulfstream, and Scat Daddy rates to be more cranked up this weekend than Nobiz.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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Should be a good race Drums of Thunder is speed!!! If he gets a nice post def upset potential

All in All race should be better than the Gr 1 Duck Invsor Handicap at GS
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:00 PM
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I usually look at the nominations, but they don't always seem accurate to me (or up to date..especially the Santa Anita stakes noms..).
For a lot of the 3yo preps an early nomination to the main race automatically nominates you to all the preps at that track. So when you see a list of nominees at a Santa Anita prep and there are only a few horses it just means that those are the horses that nominated to the prep but haven't been nominated to the Santa Anita Derby.
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