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|  asking about sires a few years back i would always check for a sire called war chant if a race was on turf if it was a mud track i used to look for more then ready java gold polish navy king mambo im talking like 10 years ago who are the big sires onw for turf and mud? | 
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 http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ire-lists/turf http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...hive/2013/turf Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 08-03-2014 at 03:53 AM. | 
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|   thanks for postin RP...good info 
				__________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something" - Plato | 
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|   I look for the War Front runners down the hill at SA, they seem to do pretty good, I do not know the stats on them...wins, ROI, etc | 
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|   http://www1.drf.com/misc/tomlinson.html and You might try these - http://www.proghandicap.com/products-mikehelm.cfm Mike Helm Books We also sell Mike Helm's complete library of pedigree books: Exploring Pedigree for $34.95. Sire Ratings for $39.95. Debut Sire Guide for $34.95 each. Debut Trainer Guide for $34.95 each. Turf Trainer Guide for $39.95 each. Online Sire Ratings - Price varies depending on subscription. 
				__________________ The virtue of a man ought to be measured, not by his extraordinary exertions, but by his everyday conduct. Blaise Pascal Last edited by Benny : 08-04-2014 at 08:20 PM. | 
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|   If any horse has A.P. Indy as their grandsire or sire, they will probably handle mud. It's not a set rule, just an observation. |