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Old 03-05-2010, 04:10 AM
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Armenian Genocide Resolution passes the House Foreign Affairs Committee by a vote of 23-22 (as the 2 leaders of Turkey watched closely on T.V.......sweeeeeet!) The reason it hasn't been done in 90 years is the reason it's opposed this time too (inconvenient.) Don't complain about the time lapse. That's our own fault for being scared of pissing Turkey off. It's so stupid to help them out, and then have them consistently back stab us. If they were our friends, I could make a little sense of it (still be immoral though.)


Funny how you people have nothing to say about these broken promises. When OBA N' HILARY break promises to do something you approve of, then you seem to let it go. Believe me, this country isn't our friend. They've trashed Israel for a year now, and they've been going to Iran to hold Ahmadinejad's hand (boldly saying that the Iranians don't deserve sanctions against them.) They are now buddies with Syria,too. F THEM!!...Ain't like they're loyal friends...eat sht n' die. They help us? That is such bullshit. F THEM!!



F'n liar #1= HILARY
"Our common morality and our nation's credibility as a voice for human rights challenge us to ensure that the Armenian Genocide be recognized and remembered by the Congress and the President of the United States", she announced on January 24, 2008


F'n liar #2= OBAMA
Presidential candidate Barack Obama shared with the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) a strongly worded statement today calling for Congressional passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106 & S.Res.106), and pledging that, as president, he will recognize the Armenian Genocide...JAN 20TH, 2008

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President Barack Obama's administration had been silent about the resolution until shortly before the vote when it said it opposed its passage. Turkey wants stronger action to block the resolution.

The measure was approved at a time when Washington is expected to press Turkey to back sanctions against Iran to be approved in the U.N. Security Council, where Turkey currently holds a seat. Turkish cooperation also is important to U.S. operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Also at stake are defense contracts. Turkey is an important market for U.S. defense companies, many of which had lobbied against the measure.



this is why you can't believe what pols say when they're campaigning. when they win office, they find out why the person they were running against didn't do a similar thing. then, they realize it's not as easy as they thought. turkey is a muslim country, and one that's presumably an ally. you don't smack your ally, especially with something that occurred almost a century ago, and expect them to take it with a smile.
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:32 AM
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Also at stake are defense contracts. Turkey is an important market for U.S. defense companies, many of which had lobbied against the measure.



this is why you can't believe what pols say when they're campaigning. when they win office, they find out why the person they were running against didn't do a similar thing. then, they realize it's not as easy as they thought. turkey is a muslim country, and one that's presumably an ally. you don't smack your ally, especially with something that occurred almost a century ago, and expect them to take it with a smile.

They aren't an ally. Since Bush talked Pelosi into not bringing it up for a vote 3 years ago, what have the Turks done for us? Bash Israel, Lovey dovey with Iran. BTW, YOU AREN'T GUNNA GET THEM TO VOTE FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN. All we get from them is a base in central Turkey, and they constantly threaten to close that.

They need to apologize for what they did to Armenians. They know they forced them to walk into the desert, and die of thirst etc. That wasn't done to protect themselves. They cut open the bellies of pregnant Armenians (just for fun.) It wasn't because of a Civil War. They did it because they thought they could get away with it. They raped retarded Greek Cypriot Women when they invaded Cypress in '74). They have a lack of respect for blood that isn't pure Turkish. In that respect, they are no different than the Nazis n' Japanese in WW2. Don't make the mistake of thinking they'll do something to help us. We've fallen for that for 90 yrs. We are still putting this off, because we fall for Turkish threats. They end up giving us nothing. What are they gunna take away? We are stupid to sell these murderers any defense weaponry. When have they ever used it to help us? They use it to fight the Greeks, and kill the Armenians. Those should be our allies. Not these thugs. Zig, you say it's 90 years. No, they did the same brutal stuff when they went into Cyprus in '74. Damn it, they will do this again to someone. The majority of their people never talk about any of this(illegal to talk about it.) They haven't got the message. They will repeat it. The same myths about their blood superiority are still there. They still constantly arm themselves for war. They are going to do this again. The military is coming for this guy's head. They have no choice. He keeps arresting officers. No telling what the military will then do.

Fact is that OBAMA n' Hilary both said they'd do Genocide Recognition. Turks make big threats, and these 2 give in to thugs. How about some courage to keep your word. How about they simply pick up the damn phone, and tell that Turk that they got elected partly because they both believed in Genocide Recognition. They can't break a promise just to make these Turk thugs stop threatening them. How dare these pigs threaten us.

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Old 03-05-2010, 11:31 AM
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The foreign minister said Turkey was determined to press ahead with efforts to normalize ties with Armenia, but said Turkey would not be "pressured" into taking any decisions.


See, the bolded above is so "Turk Classic." They don't want to be pressured, but they think it's their right to pressure our president. They always want their cake n' eat it too. Oh, and why are they going slow on normalizing relations with Armenia? It's because the Turks feel they are some sort of blood brothers to Azerbaijan. Armenia took over the Nagorno-Karabakh area of Azerbaijan (an area that is mainly occupied by ethnic Armenians.) Oh, hell yea, these two leaders are in common predicaments, but 1 is acting like a typical child. Even when OBA broke his campaign promise (to back a resolution like this,) the Turk bitches about it being too weak a response. I'm telling you, God never made any bigger hypocrites than these Turks.
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While realizing that Obama has flip-flopped on this (regardless of whatever self serving defense Riot comes up with) I happen to agree with him (on the flop not the flip). This happened 100 years ago on the other side of the world. It is not our concern nor is it going to do anything but make things harder for the US for no good reason.
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While realizing that Obama has flip-flopped on this (regardless of whatever self serving defense Riot comes up with) I happen to agree with him (on the flop not the flip). This happened 100 years ago on the other side of the world. It is not our concern nor is it going to do anything but make things harder for the US for no good reason.

Don't you think people said that during the Holocaust? "It is not our concern." When the Turks were slaughtering 200k Armenians in the 1890's, I guess people said "It is not our concern."When the Turks were forcibly circumsizing Greeks in Istanbul in the 1950's, evidently people said "It is not our concern." When Turks invaded Cyprus in '74, they murdered most anyone they took prisoner, and raped Retarded Women. I'm sure people said "It is not our concern." I'm pretty damn sure these savages are gunna slaughter any prisoners they take. NOT 90 YEARS AGO, BUT RIGHT NOW, but you'll say "It is not our concern." You know those Japanese Americans we put in camps after Pearl Harbor? That's the same situation the Turks are saying happened in WW1. Armenians in Eastern Turkey sided with invading Russians. The Turks answered by trying to exterminate all Armenians on Turkish controlled land. That's all. No camp for separation during a civil war. Nope. They just started killing them all. Obviously "It is not our concern."They will do that any chance they get. They are not big on keeping prisoners. You want any man, woman, or child falling into their control to be butchered? They've shown they don't give a damn about prisoners' lives, but "It is not our concern"
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Don't you think people said that during the Holocaust? "It is not our concern." When the Turks were slaughtering 200k Armenians in the 1890's, I guess people said "It is not our concern."When the Turks were forcibly circumsizing Greeks in Istanbul in the 1950's, evidently people said "It is not our concern." When Turks invaded Cyprus in '74, they murdered most anyone they took prisoner, and raped Retarded Women. I'm sure people said "It is not our concern." I'm pretty damn sure these savages are gunna slaughter any prisoners they take. NOT 90 YEARS AGO, BUT RIGHT NOW, but you'll say "It is not our concern." You know those Japanese Americans we put in camps after Pearl Harbor? That's the same situation the Turks are saying happened in WW1. Armenians in Eastern Turkey sided with invading Russians. The Turks answered by trying to exterminate all Armenians on Turkish controlled land. That's all. No camp for separation during a civil war. Nope. They just started killing them all. Obviously "It is not our concern."They will do that any chance they get. They are not big on keeping prisoners. You want any man, woman, or child falling into their control to be butchered? They've shown they don't give a damn about prisoners' lives, but "It is not our concern"
You cant change history and rewriting it doesnt change that.
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You cant change history and rewriting it doesnt change that.
Old ways of thinking (which led to past mistakes) are never talked about; which often means that they are left in place to spawn new mishaps ad infinitum. When we ignore thuggery (for sake of selfish "interests") it has always come back to bite us. These thugs sit back, and take advantage of the fact that people are willing to ignore evil in order to get something. In this case, that something is so incredibly overrated. Do they act like friends? At all? Who is feeding you this crap about them helping us? They won't fight any of the Muslim terrorists were fighting. They didn't let us use their air space to invade IRAQ (2X.) They back Hamas, and are practically at war with Israel (because HAMAS uses women n' children as human shields.) They constantly threaten to take that 1 base away from us. Takes strength of character to stand up to thugs, and tell them to fk off. Reagan came closest of all to actually standing up to these manipulative savages. They will always fk with heads. They've just managed to destroy our president's credibility with anyone who can read what he has ever said about the Genocide..turned OBAMA into their bitch. All this because we've continued to tolerate evil in order to get "something." That "something" has never been reliable. I Have no idea how people see them as friends, or allies. They never will be...Never..keep dreaming (but it won't ever happen.)

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While realizing that Obama has flip-flopped on this (regardless of whatever self serving defense Riot comes up with) I happen to agree with him (on the flop not the flip). This happened 100 years ago on the other side of the world. It is not our concern nor is it going to do anything but make things harder for the US for no good reason.
It's quite clever to use Political Expediency to delay this thing, and then(after a certain amount of time has passed) you start using the passage of time as an excuse not to act. Machiavellian types (like you) caused this delay to happen in the 1st place. G D amazing. Have you ever (just once) considered making a decision based on right n' wrong (instead of this Machiavelian sht?) These thugs are the biggest manipulators in the world. So, it's no wonder they've managed to always get the better part of the sick deal.

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1. the principles of government set forth in The Prince by Machiavelli, in which political expediency is exalted above morality and the use of er aft and deceit to maintain authority or to effectuate policy is recommended

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See, here is an example of why you folks have got this wrong:

" I love my brothers in Fatah And my brothers
in Hamas wherever they are."-
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on March 7th, 2010

This guy is not Secular. The military, and the Judicial are suppose to make sure it's a Secular State , but he's been weakening their power. I don't know why the military isn't coming for his head. He keeps arresting them. So, I have no idea why they don't come get him. NATO member? Oh, I wouldn't count on them for that much longer. He's def. turned the country Eastward, yet the U.S. is still under the false impression that the country is Secular. It will only be Secular if the military comes for his head. Right now, they can't be trusted to fulfill any NATO commitments. So, this is pretty much selling out the Armenians to get that 1 base in Turkey(which may be closed by the morning.)
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I just want everyone to know the fkn freak that Obama n' Hillary were willing to sell-out to, and lose any credibility that had built up during their career. They have both gone back on the promise to support this Genocide Resolution. Who did they do this for? The same idiot that said the comments below.

Erdogan claimed to know that Bashir is innocent, and that there is no genocide taking place in Sudan. “A Muslim can never commit genocide,” he said in explanation. “It's not possible.”

The Turkish PM added that he had visited Darfur and did not see evidence of genocide during his trip.


This Hillary idiot actually stood up there Thursday and said part of the reason she was turning her back (on her own promise ) was because Turkey n' Armenia were close to normalizing relations. I just can't believe she believes that bullshit. OMG , Turkey isn't opening that border with Armenia until Armenia gets out of Nagorno-Karaback. That's simply not going to happen, because it's mainly inhabited by ethnic Armenians. These 2 are really just believing any load that this bullshit Turk blows their way. He's says it's threatening the normalization process? It's dead, folks. These 2 in charge of our foreign policy are the only 2 stupid enough to think that it's still alive. That protocol bullsHit? IT'S DEAD. iT'S 100% tied to the NK area in dispute.

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Swedish Parliament passes a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide.
Another painfully close vote 131-130 , with 88 members absent (LOL,) sends Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan into another tantrum.

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you don't smack your ally, especially with something that occurred almost a century ago, and expect them to take it with a smile.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137999

Now, who got this right? I told you this guy isn't our friend. People are so quick to say what you should do for a friend /ally that they get ahead of themselves (get the friend part totally wrong.) This is an Islamist that's been hiding in the weeds (just like I said he was doing.) These people aren't hard to read, but you must be willing to accept the facts that none of us want to accept. The Secularist that set up that country would never accept what this leader is doing. He would be hung. He should be hung by the military. One of their main responsibilities is to protect the SECULAR GOV'T. So, don't be surprised when you hear that this guy has been shot/ hung by the Turkish Military. They are so late, but this (inviting the leader of Hizbollah to come to visit him) should finally get them to kill him. This is unacceptable to the Kemalists that revere Ataturk's Secular set up. If Erdogan doesn't change his mind, he is gunna get owned. Where can I bet on this?

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Back in the 90's. this guy was given a prison sentence after he had read poetry that was regarded as a violation of Kemalism. It included lines translated as :

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers."

To try to satisfy this fkn Islamist (something that can't be done,) Oba n' Hillary were willing to stain their careers by each going back on promises to pass the Armenian Genocide Resolution. I repeat, someone who recites the crap above is not our friend, or an ally. That's why you now see him doing something a friend would never do (invite the leader of Hezbollah to come visit.) This means this so called friend of ours is buddy buddy with both Hamas, and Hezbollah. Great going.
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I'm going with Scuds on this one....especially the Macievellian stuff!
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I'm going with Scuds on this one....especially the Macievellian stuff!

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Armenian Genocide Resolution passes the House Foreign Affairs Committee by a vote of 23-22 (as the 2 leaders of Turkey watched closely on T.V.......sweeeeeet!) The reason it hasn't been done in 90 years is the reason it's opposed this time too (inconvenient.) Don't complain about the time lapse. That's our own fault for being scared of pissing Turkey off. It's so stupid to help them out, and then have them consistently back stab us. If they were our friends, I could make a little sense of it (still be immoral though.)


Funny how you people have nothing to say about these broken promises. When OBA N' HILARY break promises to do something you approve of, then you seem to let it go. Believe me, this country isn't our friend. They've trashed Israel for a year now, and they've been going to Iran to hold Ahmadinejad's hand (boldly saying that the Iranians don't deserve sanctions against them.) They are now buddies with Syria,too. F THEM!!...Ain't like they're loyal friends...eat sht n' die. They help us? That is such bullshit. F THEM!!



F'n liar #1= HILARY
"Our common morality and our nation's credibility as a voice for human rights challenge us to ensure that the Armenian Genocide be recognized and remembered by the Congress and the President of the United States", she announced on January 24, 2008


F'n liar #2= OBAMA
Presidential candidate Barack Obama shared with the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) a strongly worded statement today calling for Congressional passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106 & S.Res.106), and pledging that, as president, he will recognize the Armenian Genocide...JAN 20TH, 2008


Surprise Surprise O'Dumbass caught in another lie. Hopefully the American public will wake in 2012 and realize what a fraud this person is.
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