Obama Admin. to Sue Arizona

[Rupert Pupkin]

I'm not even necessarily in favor of the Arizona law, but I respect Arizona's right to implement this law. For the Obama Administration to file suit to block the Arizona law is absolutely outrageous. Not only is it ourageous but it is a very stupid move politically considering a huge majority of people support the law.

I addition, it was all class on the part of the Obama Administration to let Arizona learn of the move through an Ecuadorean interview of Hillary Clinton.

To quote the Governor of Arizona, “This is no way to treat the people of Arizona,” the governor said in a statement. “To learn of this lawsuit through an Ecuadorean interview with the Secretary of State is just outrageous. If our own government intends to sue our state to prevent illegal immigration enforcement, the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation.”

This is truly a new low for the Obama Administration.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37789246...new_york_times

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

This is truly a new low for the Obama Administration.

Hey, it's early yet -- wait until you see what else they come up with...

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Hey, it's early yet -- wait until you see what else they come up with...

2 1/2 yrs to go! YAY!!!

[Rupert Pupkin]

I don't see too many people defending the Obama Administration on this one, not even his most loyal Derby Trail supporters.

I guess you could compliment Obama for doing what he thinks is right. But as I said before, I think it is a terrible move politically. Public opinion is very one-sided on this issue.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't see too many people defending the Obama Administration on this one, not even his most loyal Derby Trail supporters.

I guess you could compliment Obama for doing what he thinks is right. But as I said before, I think it is a terrible move politically. Public opinion is very one-sided on this issue.

The only time liberal office holders care about public opinion is when they are forced to -- at election time.

Otherwise they are too busy being arrogant and condescending to worry about what we think.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The only time liberal office holders care about public opinion is when they are forced to -- at election time.

Otherwise they are too busy being arrogant and condescending to worry about what we think.

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

It may take 60 days but Obama will act on your sh^t flow

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

Where do you stand on the issue? Should the Obama Administration file suit against Arizona to stop them from implementing this law or not?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

Sorry Bob, but what I said about liberals in government is true more often than not.

Obama is giving us the "We know what's good for you" routine. Don't want the government to take over health care? Too bad -- we know what's good for you.

Want the border secured? Sorry -- we don't think that's necessary.

Oh yeah -- that big oil spill -- well, you ought to be cutting back on your energy use anyway, so how about a big honking "Carbon Tax" -- we think that's best.

It's exactly what the Dems are doing -- long on arrogance and short on political sense and gray matter.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Sorry Bob, but what I said about liberals in government is true more often than not.

Obama is giving us the "We know what's good for you" routine. Don't want the government to take over health care? Too bad -- we know what's good for you.

Want the border secured? Sorry -- we don't think that's necessary.

Oh yeah -- that big oil spill -- well, you ought to be cutting back on your energy use anyway, so how about a big honking "Carbon Tax" -- we think that's best.

It's exactly what the Dems are doing -- long on arrogance and short on political sense and gray matter.

I guess it depends on what your thoughts are on the subjects you listed above. There is no way I can blame Obama, or would have blamed Bush, for how he reacted to the spill. As far as the borders, I have said here before they should be secured, but I also think an amnesty plan needs to be developed for the Illegals already here. You (Republicans) think your view point is just the right one and that anyone opposing ( basically half the country) is a pinko, commie freak who is wrong. The Republicans that come to mind have always been about big business, big oil and never gave a shi*t about the working man. You guys are just so paranoid about big government that you just knee jerk react to anything Obama does as being wrong.

And that's where you (Republicans) lose your credibility. When you don't focus on the things you really think are important, then all the crap you throw against the wall gets ignored. Obama is not the anti-Christ. He just happens to be a Democrat and that drives you crazy. Kind of like I'll never understand a Republican..politically at least.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Where do you stand on the issue? Should the Obama Administration file suit against Arizona to stop them from implementing this law or not?

To me, the law is racial profiling and that should be at least looked into further. If a Federal lawsuit is what it takes, then so be it. This is a major intiative..why the rush to make it a law? How about a referendum first?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I guess it depends on what your thoughts are on the subjects you listed above. There is no way I can blame Obama, or would have blamed Bush, for how he reacted to the spill. As far as the borders, I have said here before they should be secured, but I also think an amnesty plan needs to be developed for the Illegals already here. You (Republicans) think your view point is just the right one and that anyone opposing ( basically half the country) is a pinko, commie freak who is wrong. The Republicans that come to mind have always been about big business, big oil and never gave a shi*t about the working man. You guys are just so paranoid about big government that you just knee jerk react to anything Obama does as being wrong.

And that's where you (Republicans) lose your credibility. When you don't focus on the things you really think are important, then all the crap you throw against the wall gets ignored. Obama is not the anti-Christ. He just happens to be a Democrat and that drives you crazy. Kind of like I'll never understand a Republican..politically at least.

Sorry to jump in the middle of you guy's cat fight but who do you think gives the working man his job ? They are the big bad businessman that are about making products providing services that provide a place for that middle class man or woman a place to go make money.
The people in government who take money from corporations through lobbyists are the people you should have a gripe with and I dont care if they are a Democrat or a Republican they all do it . Eliminate campaign contributions from large corporations and the people who work for them.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Sorry to jump in the middle of you guy's cat fight but who do you think gives the working man his job ? They are the big bad businessman that are about making products providing services that provide a place for that middle class man or woman a place to go make money.
The people in government who take money from corporations through lobbyists are the people you should have a gripe with and I dont care if they are a Democrat or a Republican they all do it . Eliminate campaign contributions from large corporations and the people who work for them.

I agree with the second part of what you wrote..but doubt that realistically that is ever going to happen.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I agree with the second part of what you wrote..but doubt that realistically that is ever going to happen.

Me too and you know what it really really sucks ......What this country needs so badly is an honest politician but that in itself is just hysterical.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

Me too and you know what it really really sucks ......What this country needs so badly is an honest politician but that in itself is just hysterical.

an oxymoron to be sure.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't see too many people defending the Obama Administration on this one, not even his most loyal Derby Trail supporters.

Have you missed the other thread about this, one you've posted on?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I guess it depends on what your thoughts are on the subjects you listed above. There is no way I can blame Obama, or would have blamed Bush, for how he reacted to the spill. As far as the borders, I have said here before they should be secured, but I also think an amnesty plan needs to be developed for the Illegals already here. You (Republicans) think your view point is just the right one and that anyone opposing ( basically half the country) is a pinko, commie freak who is wrong. The Republicans that come to mind have always been about big business, big oil and never gave a shi*t about the working man. You guys are just so paranoid about big government that you just knee jerk react to anything Obama does as being wrong.

And that's where you (Republicans) lose your credibility. When you don't focus on the things you really think are important, then all the crap you throw against the wall gets ignored. Obama is not the anti-Christ. He just happens to be a Democrat and that drives you crazy. Kind of like I'll never understand a Republican..politically at least.

The Democrats used to be for the "working man" a while back, but since the 1965 "Great Society" stuff Johnson pushed, they've been more for the welfare recipient.

If you want to keep more of what you earn on the job, the Republicans are the better option. Not that any politicians are that great -- but given the choice I'll take the ones who take less of my money every week.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

To me, the law is racial profiling and that should be at least looked into further. If a Federal lawsuit is what it takes, then so be it. This is a major intiative..why the rush to make it a law? How about a referendum first?

Let me ask you a question. Let's say there is a fairly nice, middle-class, black neighborhood. And let's say that there have been some young, white skinhead types sneaking into that neighborhood at night and committing burglaries, assaults, and that type of thing.

If the police are patroling the neighborhood at night and they see a car with a couple of young white guys in it, should they pull the car over? If they pulled it over, I guess you could consider that racial-profiling. Would racial-profiling be ok in this case or is it never ok?

[Cannon Shell]

It may be called racial profiling but since 99.98% of illegal aliens in AZ are Mexican who exactly should they be looking at? How do you not racially profile (or in this case nationally profile) when virtually everyone you are looking for is of one particular race/nationalty?

[Nascar1966]

Its a shame O'Dumbass can't be impeached for being a f ckup. It wouldn't suprise me if he goes down as the worst President in history. Hopefully the American public will wake in 2012 and realize how worthless he is.