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Old 08-20-2006, 09:43 AM
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need to pay big fines for administration of illegal injectables.
These pain killers adminstered to certain parts of a horses legs require experience to inject properly to deaden the right nerves and knowlege of how to get to the proper spot. This takes some practice and knowlege.

They all need to be held accountable for what they are injecting. This trainer said I ordered this, and the vet said this was ordered, and the vet said he did not an assistant to the trainer gave the injection bull crap has got to be stopped. Strict records. And if a horse tests positive because someone came in the stall and injected a horse without knowlege of the vet or trainer, well, you are responsible for your horses. Tough luck, post a guard. Big monetary fines on Vets is the way to go. They then will make sure the horse is not touched so their name will not be smeared. BS has got to stop. This game playing between trainers, vets, and some syringe that magically finds its way to just the right spot on a damaged horse has got to stop.
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:29 AM
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Could not of said it any better. Chemical warfare is whats happening,20000-claimers become graded winners. You are so right, something must be done.
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:39 PM
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Yep look at the Lava Man, him and Maron Jones see the same vet
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:00 PM
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need to pay big fines for administration of illegal injectables.
These pain killers adminstered to certain parts of a horses legs require experience to inject properly to deaden the right nerves and knowlege of how to get to the proper spot. This takes some practice and knowlege.

They all need to be held accountable for what they are injecting. This trainer said I ordered this, and the vet said this was ordered, and the vet said he did not an assistant to the trainer gave the injection bull crap has got to be stopped. Strict records. And if a horse tests positive because someone came in the stall and injected a horse without knowlege of the vet or trainer, well, you are responsible for your horses. Tough luck, post a guard. Big monetary fines on Vets is the way to go. They then will make sure the horse is not touched so their name will not be smeared. BS has got to stop. This game playing between trainers, vets, and some syringe that magically finds its way to just the right spot on a damaged horse has got to stop.
Pgardn,
I agree. Read what I put up on the Lost in the Fog thread.
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:44 PM
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I, too, do not understand why vets are not targeted. It seems harsh BUT if trainers couldn't get a hold of stuff, they couldn't have it adminstered. You wouldn't get the crap that Jeff Mullins is handing out: "*I* never adminstered anything". Semantics, my dear Jeff.
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Old 08-20-2006, 02:41 PM
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I, too, do not understand why vets are not targeted. It seems harsh BUT if trainers couldn't get a hold of stuff, they couldn't have it adminstered. You wouldn't get the crap that Jeff Mullins is handing out: "*I* never adminstered anything". Semantics, my dear Jeff.
Yes but most of the drugs used are legal they are just put on a time table
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:00 PM
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Yes but most of the drugs used are legal they are just put on a time table

Read the latest Assmussen stuff and you will get the idea about blaming who gave the horse what and when. Records get kept, Trainers and Vets go down hard. Vets should seek out clean trainers and vice versa. Some of this crap they put in them before races is clearly so the horse will not feel pain during the race. Its certainly not to keep them comfortable while they are lame.

It reminds me of these guys I use to run with that were hard core and just poured Aleve down their throats and all sorts of other stuff BEFORE they raced. I always wanted to know exactly what was hurting so I could fix it with rest and appropriate exercise. The horses are innocent little children.
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:21 PM
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Read the latest Assmussen stuff and you will get the idea about blaming who gave the horse what and when. Records get kept, Trainers and Vets go down hard. Vets should seek out clean trainers and vice versa. Some of this crap they put in them before races is clearly so the horse will not feel pain during the race. Its certainly not to keep them comfortable while they are lame.

It reminds me of these guys I use to run with that were hard core and just poured Aleve down their throats and all sorts of other stuff BEFORE they raced. I always wanted to know exactly what was hurting so I could fix it with rest and appropriate exercise. The horses are innocent little children.
Asmussen's horse was dead-lame. That's why they gave the horse a nerve-block. This horse should never have been running. This horse was so sore that even with cortisone injections and all the bute in the world, this horse still couldn't run. So what they did was the most dangerous and unethical thing you could do. They gave the horse a nerve-block which means the horse could not feel anything in his leg. This is incredibly dangerous. A horse could break his leg and not even feel it. A nerve block makes you completely numb.

It's no surprise that this horse was retired after that race.
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