Wooley gets it, I guess others don't

gales0678 · #1 06-09-2009, 01:11 PM

According to Chip he doesn't get why the Racino in the Big A with all the slots, restaurants , etc.. has not opened yet

Slots literally saved Sunland Park he claims and would be a financial bonanza for the BIG A and NY racing in general.

With what is going on in Albany I guess we will never get the slots , what a shame.

It seems to have worked at Yonkers Raceway , purses are up and the place is packed on the weekends

Anybody have any updates in this ongoing issue - thx

phystech · #2 06-09-2009, 01:28 PM

About the only people that don't get it are the politicians. And, actually, that isn't a true statement 'cause they get it too - but they haven't figured out how to get IT in their pockets.....

sumitas · #3 06-09-2009, 01:30 PM

If only the Injuns would stop their rain dance for their racino at Belmont .

Bobby Fischer · #4 06-09-2009, 01:33 PM

what did he get? appreciation for kindly making a pro-racino statement while he has his 15minutes?

gales0678 · #5 06-09-2009, 01:35 PM

that slots are the future - they saved Sunland Park his home track and they may save other tracks across the country , a lot more people play the 1 arm bandits then the ponies

Kasept · #6 06-09-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

what did he get? appreciation for kindly making a pro-racino statement while he has his 15minutes?

This is a very silly comment. In fact, Chip Woolley had been earlier lauded in Kentucky and Maryland for actively speaking out on behalf of Horsemen on the slots issue, utilizing his own remarkable rise from obscurity as the point of reference.

Woolley has been a surprise to everyone who has encountered him. He's bright, articulate and in touch with the current state of the game. Just because he also happens to be a Southwesten version of a hardboot, doesn't mean he doesn't have something to contribute.

VOL JACK · #7 06-09-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

This is a very silly comment. In fact, Chip Woolley had been earlier lauded in Kentucky and Maryland for actively speaking out on behalf of Horsemen on the slots issue, utilizing his own remarkable rise from obscurity as the point iof reference.

Woolley has been a surprise to everyone who has encountered him. He's bright, articulate and in touch with the current state of the game. Just because he also happens to be a Southwesten version of a hardboot, doesn't mean he doesn't have something to contribute.

Gimme a break Byk...the guy is the biggest baffoon around.
His statements regarding RA connections when he was being the Chicken$h!+ trying to dodge the filly really showed his true colors.
Does 'they are the ones causin all the problems by tryin to supplement the filly' ring a bell???

Kasept · #8 06-09-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Gimme a break Byk...the guy is the biggest baffoon around. His statements regarding RA connections when he was being the Chicken$h!+ trying to dodge the filly really showed his true colors. Does 'they are the ones causin all the problems by tryin to supplement the filly' ring a bell???

If you want to base your opinion of him on that, that's fine.. I thought the whole episode came and went and was rather comical. The future of KY's industry, the delay in the AQU VLT parlor, and the languishing of MD, all strike me as more important.

gales0678 · #9 06-09-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

If you want to base your opinion of him on that, that's fine.. I thought the whole episode came and went and was rather comical. The future of KY's industry, the delay in the AQU VLT parlor, and the languishing of MD, all strike me as more important.

steve iread recently where yonkers raceway was the most profitable casino in the country now

certainly the Big A would rival it or even surpass it

Yonkers gets a lot of the Atlantic City crowd from the Bronx who now only have to journey about 15 minutes rather than 2 hrs. The city has tons of people in Queens and Brooklyn who would head to play the slots at the Big A rather than venture down to AC.

Purse sizes by default would have to increase , it would create more jobs , there would be multiple dining establishments ....think of all the poeple who may take a 2nd look or an inital look at the horse racing game , they could even install lights and run on Friday / Sat nights at the Big A during the winter

VOL JACK · #10 06-09-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

If you want to base your opinion of him on that, that's fine.. I thought the whole episode came and went and was rather comical. The future of KY's industry, the delay in the AQU VLT parlor, and the languishing of MD, all strike me as more important.

Maybe Im biased because I knew of Chip Wooley before this Spring.
He purchased a 2yo off of a Ky trainer that i know rather well..for 460k. In Sept. of 2007.
He came into louisville with his black Harley t-shirt (with the sleeves rolled up

)..lets just say he didnt come off as a real sharp guy. JJ Graci wouldve said 'he didnt know which end of the horse ate.'

He doesnt take a genuis to figure out that Slots put more

in owners and TRAINERS pockets.

Scav · #11 06-09-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

steve iread recently where yonkers raceway was the most profitable casino in the country now

certainly the Big A would rival it or even surpass it

Yonkers gets a lot of the Atlantic City crowd from the Bronx who now only have to journey about 15 minutes rather than 2 hrs. The city has tons of people in Queens and Brooklyn who would head to play the slots at the Big A rather than venture down to AC.

Purse sizes by default would have to increase , it would create more jobs , there would be multiple dining establishments ....think of all the poeple who may take a 2nd look or an inital look at the horse racing game , they could even install lights and run on Friday / Sat nights at the Big A during the winter

You have been ok recently, but now I know you have absolutely LOST IT...

At Night, in the middle of winter, in New York?....

gales0678 · #12 06-09-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

You have been ok recently, but now I know you have absolutely LOST IT...

At Night, in the middle of winter, in New York?....

they run at yonkers at night , why not the Big A?

Kasept · #13 06-09-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Maybe Im biased because I knew of Chip Wooley before this Spring.
He purchased a 2yo off of a Ky trainer that i know rather well..for 460k. In Sept. of 2007.
He came into louisville with his black Harley t-shirt (with the sleeves rolled up

)..lets just say he didnt come off as a real sharp guy. JJ Graci wouldve said 'he didnt know which end of the horse ate.'

He doesnt take a genuis to figure out that Slots put more

in owners and TRAINERS pockets.

I hear you. My point simply was in terms of utilizing him and his specific story while the proverbial iron was hot is advantageous for the jurisdictions that are waging Death Race 2009 right now...

Scav · #14 06-09-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

they run at yonkers at night , why not the Big A?

You could put standardbreds in a nuclear war and they would be ok...

Antitrust32 · #15 06-09-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

If you want to base your opinion of him on that, that's fine.. I thought the whole episode came and went and was rather comical. The future of KY's industry, the delay in the AQU VLT parlor, and the languishing of MD, all strike me as more important.

If I remember correctly, it was MTB's owner, the Allen guy, who was thinking of entering another horse to keep Rachel out... and changed his mind when his horse trainer, Chip Wooley, and father told him that was unsportsmanlike and chickenshit.

dont think Wooley did anything wrong there! Just talked some sense into Allen.

freddymo · #16 06-09-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

This is a very silly comment. In fact, Chip Woolley had been earlier lauded in Kentucky and Maryland for actively speaking out on behalf of Horsemen on the slots issue, utilizing his own remarkable rise from obscurity as the point of reference.

Woolley has been a surprise to everyone who has encountered him. He's bright, articulate and in touch with the current state of the game. Just because he also happens to be a Southwesten version of a hardboot, doesn't mean he doesn't have something to contribute.

Please enlighten us how millions of people losing millions of dollars in an idiot box helps horse racing.. Oh I guess you mean the inflated purses for a few years till the folks are broke and the state has to bail them out with welfare food stamps and free medical and legal fees. Horse racing thrived when it was one of the very few gambling options.. More gambling dollars spent on ancillary products can never be a good long term solution. Less dates, less horses and consequently less folks in the business is the answer..Its just a bitter pill to swallow but it is the long term I care about not some inflated overnight purse for chemists to get horses hopped up for..

MaTH716 · #17 06-09-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

they run at yonkers at night , why not the Big A?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I can feel that pleasant breeze that comes off Jamaica Bay in Febuary by just thinking about it. Oh wait it will be even better, with a 7 o'clock post.

gales0678 · #18 06-09-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Please enlighten us how millions of people losing millions of dollars in an idiot box helps horse racing.. Oh I guess you mean the inflated purses for a few years till the folks are broke and the state has to bail them out with welfare food stamps and free medical and legal fees. Horse racing thrived when it was one of the very few gambling options.. More gambling dollars spent on ancillary products can never be a good long term solution. Less dates, less horses and consequently less folks in the business is the answer..Its just a bitter pill to swallow but it is the long term I care about not some inflated overnight purse for chemists to get horses hopped up for..

That is already happening freddy , do you think waht is going on over at Yonkers is bad for harness racing? the people playing the slots would have gone to AC anyway , why not use slots as a means to better the game and advance it into the 21st century

philcski · #19 06-09-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I can feel that pleasant breeze that comes off Jamaica Bay in Febuary by just thinking about it. Oh wait it will be even better, with a 7 o'clock post.

Was just thinking the same thing. The horses don't care, but the jockeys would.

cowgirlintexas · #20 06-09-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Was just thinking the same thing. The horses don't care, but the jockeys would.

I would think,if the horses had a choice would say "Screw you"!