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Old 06-03-2009, 02:00 PM
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Default Benny the Bull
Back to defend his True North title.

Can he win off such a ridiculous layoff?

Against top sprinters like Kodiak Kowboy, Fabulous Strike and the unlucky Desert Key?
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:12 PM
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Maybe...I tend to like sprinters off of layoffs
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:22 PM
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are entries posted yet?
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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Not yet. I just read this in an article on DRF. I didnt think Rick was going to run Benny in this spot, but he wants a race in him before the Summit of Speed and this fits timing wise.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:42 PM
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not sure about the bull.......but if i wager on kodiac he is a garanteed toss.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:46 PM
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not sure about the bull.......but if i wager on kodiac he is a garanteed toss.
Ya me too. I am always wrong with him. Last summer he beat me out of what would have been the biggest score of my life when he headed Desert Key at Saratoga. Definite thorn in my side. I will be strongly against him on Saturday!
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:23 PM
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are entries posted yet?
Funny, the entries are up for Monmouth on Saturday and Benny is entered in the Longfellow Stakes there. Very interesting. Maybe he'll run in both races, LOL! The True North goes off at 2:30 so he could run in that and then be driven to Monmouth to make the 4:50 post time. Would be quite a feat, but if anyone could "pull it off" its Dutrow.

http://drf.com/static/entries/06/eMTH06.html?rn=200098
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:26 PM
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Back to defend his True North title.

Can he win off such a ridiculous layoff?

Against top sprinters like Kodiak Kowboy, Fabulous Strike and the unlucky Desert Key?

Can you get his name right??
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:35 PM
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are entries posted yet?

http://equibase.com/static/entry/BEL060609USA-EQB.html
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:47 PM
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I don't know who this guy is, but he better be good if he's going to race against Fabulous Strike!
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:57 PM
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I don't know who this guy is, but he better be good if he's going to race against Fabulous Strike!
He won this race last year, and then came back to win at the Summit of Speed. Hes really good but been plagued with injuries.
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:59 PM
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He won this race last year, and then came back to win at the Summit of Speed. Hes really good but been plagued with injuries.
He knows who he is. He's busting your balls because his name is Benny THE Bull.
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:01 PM
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He knows who he is. He's busting your balls because his name is Benny THE Bull.
Sorry, the "A" instead of the "The" was a big deal.
I'll get it right from now on.
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Sorry, the "A" instead of the "The" was a big deal.
I'll get it right from now on.

lol.. I knew who you were talking about if that makes you feel any better.
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:13 PM
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I was thinking this is going to be a good betting race but the field size is short. Looks like:

Fabulous Strike 4/5
Benny the Bull 2/1
Desert Key 4/1
Two Step Salsa 10/1
Silver Edition 12/1
Sixthirteen 30/1
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:03 PM
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I'd bet Two Step Salsa at that price.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:34 AM
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Back to defend his True North title.

Can he win off such a ridiculous layoff?

Against top sprinters like Kodiak Kowboy, Fabulous Strike and the unlucky Desert Key?
Tim,

I forget who wrote or said this a number of years ago, but it has always stayed with me as a handicapping maxim as it has proven out. In advance of a BC Sprint where a major player was coming in off an extended break, the point was made by a capper or trainer that sprinters can perform at their best first race back without issue, as opposed to two turn horses who under most conditions, generally need a race to reach peak fitness.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:45 AM
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Tim,

I forget who wrote or said this a number of years ago, but it has always stayed with me as a handicapping maxim as it has proven out. In advance of a BC Sprint where a major player was coming in off an extended break, the point was made by a capper or trainer that sprinters can perform at their best first race back without issue, as opposed to two turn horses who under most conditions, generally need a race to reach peak fitness.
Thanks Steve. I am a big fan of Benny but also Desert Key. This is a very tough race for me to get too involved with but I am leaning towards not using Benny, rather Desert Key the most and a little Fabulous Strike for obvious reasons.

Should be a fantastic undercard & Belmont Stakes!
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