Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-21-2009, 07:17 AM
TheSpyder's Avatar
TheSpyder TheSpyder is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Nothing could be finer
Posts: 5,140
Default Breeders Cup Marathon Made 1 3/4 miles

Seems like another really swell idea. Where are horses going to prep for this? Five times around Charlestown?

http://www.breederscup.com/content.aspx?id=38307
__________________
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-21-2009, 08:13 AM
dellinger63's Avatar
dellinger63 dellinger63 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 10,072
Default

I know I've talked with friends at BC and the discussion of why not make it 2 miles came up. Also though not as popular how about adding a steeplechase race?
__________________
“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-21-2009, 08:30 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default

there is a steeplechase race, just not where the bc is held.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-21-2009, 08:33 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,992
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
there is a steeplechase race, just not where the bc is held.
Not since 2007. The BC ended the tie-in to the NSA.

As to the distance switch, 14f is much more appropriate as a 'Marathon' than 12f.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-21-2009, 08:51 AM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,938
Default

They should keep running all day.....it will give the neophytes something to do between races.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-21-2009, 09:04 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Not since 2007. The BC ended the tie-in to the NSA.

As to the distance switch, 14f is much more appropriate as a 'Marathon' than 12f.

well, what do you know.
and yes, a marathon should be longer than 12f.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-21-2009, 09:35 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

What difference does it make anyway?

1 1/2 or 1 3/4? Either way it is a strange distance for American horses. What will they do when they go to a regular dirt track with that race?

If the breeders cup comes up with a starter 5k going 1 3/4 I'll point Love Dubai there.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-21-2009, 09:36 AM
brockguy's Avatar
brockguy brockguy is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,263
Default

Considering it is the Marathon, 14f would be the minimum distance. Fair play to organisers..

Funny I heard Ralph Beckett say that last year's winner Muhannak probably wouldnt go it now as he wouldnt 'stay'.
__________________


#Grand
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-21-2009, 09:37 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brockguy
Considering it is the Marathon, 14f would be the minimum distance. Fair play to organisers..

Funny I heard Ralph Beckett say that last year's winner Muhannak probably wouldnt go it now as he wouldnt 'stay'.
Any relation to Josh Beckett?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-21-2009, 09:42 AM
brockguy's Avatar
brockguy brockguy is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,263
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Any relation to Josh Beckett?


id have to check that up - Paddy Harrington is sorta related to some QB Joey Harrington though!!
__________________


#Grand
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-21-2009, 10:53 AM
brianwspencer's Avatar
brianwspencer brianwspencer is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 4,894
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Seems like another really swell idea. Where are horses going to prep for this? Five times around Charlestown?

http://www.breederscup.com/content.aspx?id=38307
In the 1 3/4 Polar Expedition at Arlington should be a perfect springboard. Nothing like a $50K overnight as your prep for the BC....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
If the breeders cup comes up with a starter 5k going 1 3/4 I'll point Love Dubai there.
...which strangely enough is probably going to come up like a 5k starter.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Bobby Fischer's Avatar
Bobby Fischer Bobby Fischer is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,401
Default

handicapping should be pretty straightforward this year = look for the best european turf horse...

but when they switch back to real dirt - a 14furlongs BC race has a possibility of being a really great betting race for a handicapper, so long as there isn't a tiny field or just one obvious dominant runner.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-21-2009, 11:14 AM
dagolfer33's Avatar
dagolfer33 dagolfer33 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 2,524
Default

Paddy and Joey are definitely related in one sense: Neither can play QB. Although I would at least give Paddy a chance throw a few quick slants before I could be certain my statement is totally acurate.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-21-2009, 04:00 PM
jwkniska's Avatar
jwkniska jwkniska is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Mt. Prospect, IL (AP)
Posts: 1,578
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brockguy


id have to check that up - Paddy Harrington is sorta related to some QB Joey Harrington though!!

cousins
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-21-2009, 05:41 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What difference does it make anyway?

1 1/2 or 1 3/4? Either way it is a strange distance for American horses. What will they do when they go to a regular dirt track with that race?

If the breeders cup comes up with a starter 5k going 1 3/4 I'll point Love Dubai there.
Malibu Moonshine can't get more then 1 5/8th's
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-21-2009, 06:01 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddymo
Malibu Moonshine can't get more then 1 5/8th's
I thought he died
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-21-2009, 06:06 PM
Merlinsky Merlinsky is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,049
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I thought he died
In the last month?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...153/index.html
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-21-2009, 09:14 PM
westcoastinvader westcoastinvader is offline
Washington Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 843
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept

As to the distance switch, 14f is much more appropriate as a 'Marathon' than 12f.

Just a related aside, but I was at the Breeders' Cup at Santa Anita last year and the Marathon unexpectedly became one of my fave races of the day for viewing.

It was uniquely cool to be able to go all the way to the back of the infield to watch the horses load "up close and personal" on the backstretch. And then to stay on the backstretch fence to watch the pack come around again after a mile, with still another half mile to go.

And then dash to the infield side of the finish line to see the finish the 1/2 mile later.

I don't think I'll ever wager to much $$ on a marathon, but this fall at Santa Anita I'll definitely make certain to move to the infield again to watch the marathon in similar fashion.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-21-2009, 10:38 PM
sumitas sumitas is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,362
Default

Geesh the 1 3/4 marathon, I like it, has turned into a marathon for the fans in the infield. It would be cool to see a pack of fans join you in the infield event .
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-21-2009, 10:41 PM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumitas
Geesh the 1 3/4 marathon, I like it, has turned into a marathon for the fans in the infield. It would be cool to see a pack of fans join you in the infield event .
Only if there were snipers using rubber bullets.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.