Goodbye Duante

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Just four years ago the young man threw 39 TD passes, had an otherworldly 111 QB Rating, and was supposedly destined for the Hall of Fame in a Moss made offense.

Earlier today he retired via E-mail. He says he contacted 14 NFL teams in the off-season and none wanted him.

It's too bad it took so long for the leauge to finally figure out the guy can't play now. In my opinion, he never could.

[ateamstupid]

Is there anything this guy doesn't do by e-mail?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Is there anything this guy doesn't do by e-mail?

getting lap dances on a boat?

[dalakhani]

Remember his knee got shredded. Sure, he was never a great passer but the combination of running and throwing made him highly effective for a while. To say he was never any good? That is harsh. One receiever isnt going to get a QB those kind of numbers. He had to possess some kind of skill.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Remember his knee got shredded. Sure, he was never a great passer but the combination of running and throwing made him highly effective for a while. To say he was never any good? That is harsh. One receiever isnt going to get a QB those kind of numbers. He had to possess some kind of skill.

Drugs has an unhealthy obsession with Randy Moss, so of course the idea that anyone throwing to him had talent is blasphemy. Culpepper was a good QB before the knee injury. Without mobility he got scared while having to sit in the pocket and was no longer effective. Losing Moss of course didn't help.

What I don't get it why would he retire? So he's eligible for the HOF sooner where he'll never get a vote? Isn't it easier to stay unretired and hope someone gets desperate and throws a million at you?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Drugs has an unhealthy obsession with Randy Moss, so of course the idea that anyone throwing to him had talent is blasphemy. Culpepper was a good QB before the knee injury. Without mobility he got scared while having to sit in the pocket and was no longer effective. Losing Moss of course didn't help.

What I don't get it why would he retire? So he's eligible for the HOF sooner where he'll never get a vote? Isn't it easier to stay unretired and hope someone gets desperate and throws a million at you?

He's not retired. He's a drama queen who loves sending mass e-mails for attention.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's not retired. He's a drama queen who loves sending mass e-mails for attention.

Ah, a Favre, except with less interceptions.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Ah, a Favre, except with less interceptions.

You really think Favre knows how to send an e-mail?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Drugs has an unhealthy obsession with Randy Moss, so of course the idea that anyone throwing to him had talent is blasphemy. Culpepper was a good QB before the knee injury. Without mobility he got scared while having to sit in the pocket and was no longer effective. Losing Moss of course didn't help.

What I don't get it why would he retire? So he's eligible for the HOF sooner where he'll never get a vote? Isn't it easier to stay unretired and hope someone gets desperate and throws a million at you?

Benefits package starts sooner.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You really think Favre knows how to send an e-mail?

Good point, but would have have really thought Culpepper knew how to send one? Maybe that is what their agents are for, they don't seem to do much else but give bad advice and then take a cut.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Culpepper was a good QB before the knee injury.

He played 7 games after he ran Moss out of Minnesota AND before the injury to his knee.

He had the lowest passer rating of his entire career - he threw 6 TD's versus 12 INT's lost 3 fumbles and his team, who had won a playoff game the year prior, was 1-6 at the time he went down.

The '98 Vikings, a 15-1 team, had the highest scoring offense in NFL history and held it for nine years. Moss caught 17 TD's from a decrepid Randall Cunningham that year.

The '07 Patriots, a 16-0 team, broke the '98 Vikings record for the highest scoring offense in NFL history. Moss caught 23 TD passes from Tom Brady, and Brady almost doubled his career best prior year for TD passes.

However, the most brillaint achievement of Randy's career was not that, or the 53 TD passes he caught in just two years of college - it was the fact that he fooled so many people into thinking Culpepper was a good NFL quarterback for five straight years.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Just four years ago the young man threw 39 TD passes, had an otherworldly 111 QB Rating, and was supposedly destined for the Hall of Fame in a Moss made offense.

Earlier today he retired via E-mail. He says he contacted 14 NFL teams in the off-season and none wanted him.
It's too bad it took so long for the leauge to finally figure out the guy can't play now. In my opinion, he never could.

He had a tryout with the Steelers when Batch got hurt. He was offered a contract but refused it because he had no opportunity to start. If he really wanted to play he could, he is above competing for a job, he feels he is entitled to one. He has no interest in helping the other QB'S, he is a prima donna and therefore unemployed.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Big Ben and Batch are both much better QB's.

Culpepper is a human turnover machine when the middle of the field isn't open for him all game long.

[dalakhani]

In Culpepper's finest season, 2004, he threw for 39 touchdowns and ran for 2 more with 4717 yards while throwing just two picks. This was Moss's WORST season outside of his last one in Oakland which shouldnt even count. He played in 13 games caught 767 yards.

How would one explain that season if Culpepper was "never any good" and owed his success entirely to Moss?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

He had a tryout with the Steelers when Batch got hurt. He was offered a contract but refused it because he had no opportunity to start. If he really wanted to play he could, he is above competing for a job, he feels he is entitled to one. He has no interest in helping the other QB'S, he is a prima donna and therefore unemployed.

i thought he and leftwich both tried out, with the team choosing byron?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How would one explain that season if Culpepper was "never any good" and owed his success entirely to Moss?

You don't know what you're talking about.

Moss caught 13 Touchdowns in 13 games that Regular Season - and had a 2 Touchdown and a 100+ yard game in a road playoff win at GB in the wild card.

Culpepper put up huge numbers that year with repetitive rinky-dink passes to wideopen recievers and tight-ends underneath while the Vikings trailed big and needed quick scores to get back in the game. He would slowly take them 70 yards with the clock bleeding and than come away with nothing when the D tightened up by the endzone.

You know who the leading reciever was on the team that year? It was Jermaine Wiggins - a 275lbs tight end who is now out of the leauge. He caught 75 passes and was virtually uncovered all year long.

I happen to watch all of there games that year - so save me your stats.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You don't know what you're talking about.

Moss caught 13 Touchdowns in 13 games that Regular Season - and had a 2 Touchdown and a 100+ yard game in a road playoff win at GB in the wild card.

Culpepper put up huge numbers that year with repetitive rinky-dink passes to wideopen recievers and tight-ends underneath while the Vikings trailed big and needed quick scores to get back in the game. He would slowly take them 70 yards with the clock bleeding and than come away with nothing when the D tightened up by the endzone.

You know who the leading reciever was on the team that year? It was Jermaine Wiggins - a 275lbs tight end who is now out of the leauge. He caught 75 passes and was virtually uncovered all year long.

I happen to watch all of there games that year - so save me your stats.

Moss caught 13 tds in 13 games but only had 757 yards with less than 50 catches...his worst season in minny which paved the road for them getting rid of him in the offseason.

Rinky dink passes? Intesting. Culpepper had the HIGHEST YARDS PER ATTEMPT in his career in that year with 8.6 per attempt and he finished with a rating of 110.

You say "came away with nothing" and the guy throws for 39 tds (26 werent to moss) and ran for 2 more.

And everyone remembers the Green bay game...it was the one where Moss "mooned" the crowd. Hilarious.

And i may not know what i am talking about but i guess neither do the fans, coaches and players that named him all pro...twice.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

You didn't watch any of the games. All the coverage rolled to Moss and others guys were wide open. Some of Culpepper's biggest games came in losing efforts. In the 3 games Moss didn't play - they lost the first two - and needed two late touchdowns to beat the hapless Lions 22-19 in the other.

A decrepid Randell Cunningham, who had been out of the leauge for a few years prior, won the entire leauge MVP. An over-the-hill Jeff George was voted to the Pro Bowl and put up huge numbers in his lone 3/4 of a season with the Vikes as a starter.

Todd Bowman and Gus Ferrote - who both started two or three games apeice for the Vikes both won NFC Offensive player of the week awards as Vikes QBs with Moss.

Moss isn't an underneath or over the middle guy - he's a vertical guy who opens the field and creates mis matches all over. He doesn't need to have a single pass thrown his way to have a huge impact on the game.

Culpepper ran him out of Minny after 2004 - and now it's nice to see the agent/qb/imbecile out of the leauge.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You didn't watch any of the games. All the coverage rolled to Moss and others guys were wide open. Some of Culpepper's biggest games came in losing efforts. In the 3 games Moss didn't play - they lost the first two - and needed two late touchdowns to beat the hapless Lions 22-19 in the other.

A decrepid Randell Cunningham, who had been out of the leauge for a few years prior, won the entire leauge MVP. An over-the-hill Jeff George was voted to the Pro Bowl and put up huge numbers in his one 3/4 of a season with the Vikes.

Todd Bowman and Gus Ferrote - who both started two or three games apeice for the Vikes won NFC Offensive player of the week awards as Vikes QBs with Moss.

Moss isn't an underneath or over the middle guy - he's a vertical guy who opens the field and creates mis matches all over. He doesn't need to have a single pass thrown his way to have a huge impact on the game.

Culpepper ran him out of Minny after 2004 - and now it's nice to see the agent/qb/imbecile out of the leauge.

The Vikings ranked fourth in total offense in 2004 while defense ranked 26th. Again, lets not let FACTS get in the way of an offbased position.

I know what kind of player Moss is. I know he doesnt need to catch passes to have impact. We are all aware of the credentials. At the same time, Culpepper had a few GREAT YEARS. Regardless of how great Moss is, Daunte still had to deliver. In 2004 he did. And the leading receiver yards wise was Nate Burleson.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i thought he and leftwich both tried out, with the team choosing byron?

No...DC didnt even try out from what I understand. Pitt was offereing him the league minimun to compete for the 3rd QB position. I think Green Bay offered him $1 mill to serve as Rodgers back-up, but he refused that as well.