ILMAN: Weekend BSF's

[Kasept]

Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures for last week's stakes races:

3yo's = TEAL

*Phoenix Gold Cup (TuP): Tribesman (R. Hansen/C. Schvaneveldt) - 105

*Shotintheheart (GP): Ruff and Ready (T. Pletcher/E. Coa) - 104
*President's Day Mile (BM): Bold Chieftain (R. Gonzalez/W. Morey Jr.) - 103
*John B. Campbell (Lrl): Nite Light (T. Pletcher/M. Luzzi) - 102
*General George (Lrl): Bustin Stones (B. Levine/R. Dominguez) - 101
*Hurricane Bertie (GP): Sugar Swirl (B. Lynch/J. Castellano) - 100

*Fred 'Cappy' Capossela (Aqu): Go Go Shoot (J. Ryerson/C. Lopez) - 99
*San Carlos (SA): Surf Cat (B. Headley/A. Solis) - 99
*Master Digby (Aqu): Naughty New Yorker (P. Kelly/J. Samyn) - 98
*Florida Thoroughbred Charities (OTC): Straight Faced (S. DiMauro/E. Prado) - 98
*Barbara Fritchie (LRL): Golden Dawn (M. Hushion/C. Hill) - 97
*Southwest (OP): Denis of Cork (D. Carroll/R. Albarado) - 96
*Turf Paradise (TuP): Billy Allen - Ire (K. Bennett/C. Landeros) - 95
*Impressive (Aqu): Ravalo (C. Johnson/M. Luzzi) - 95
*Sophomore Sprint (BM): Sea of Pleasure (G. Stute/R. Baze) - 95
*Buena Vista (SA): Costume - GB (R. Frankel/G. Gomez) - 94
*Hallandale Beach (GP): Why Tonto (T. Pletcher/E. Prado) - 94
*Daytona (SA): Cheroot (D. Vienna/M. Pedroza) - 93
*Endeavour (Tam): Dreaming of Anna (W. Catalano/C. Velasquez) - 91
*Jim's Orbit (Hou): Ablaze With Spirit (S. Asmussen/S. Bridgmohan) - 90
*Chou Croute (FG): Elliecat (D. Keen/L. Meche) - 90

*Darley OBS Championship (fillies) (OTC): Calico Bay (W. Kaplan/M. Cruz) - 89
*Darley OBS Championship (colts) (OTC): Halo Najib (D. Romans/K. Desormeaux) - 89
*Pippin (OP): Kettleoneup (M. Tomlinson/C. Borel) - 89
*Suncoast (Tam): Vaulcluse (T. Albertrani/E. Coa) - 89
*Martha Washington (OP): Eight Belles (J. Jones/T. Thompson) - 88
*Happy Ticket (FG): Sax Appeal (S. Asmussen/J. Graham) - 88
*Dust Commander (TP): Self Made Man (M. Maker/V. Lebron) - 86
*Sam F. Davis (Tam): Fierce Wind (N. Zito/C. Velasquez) - 85
*Sun City (TuP): Fleet Caroline (V. Cerin/A. Quinonez) - 85
*Hollie Hughes (Aqu): Gold and Roses (T. Bush/R. Maragh) - 85
*Martha Washington (1st Div.) (OP): Sky Mom (S. Asmussen/L. Quinonez) - 85
*Dearly Precious (Aqu): Ready for Fortune (G. Contessa/M. Pino) - 84
*Island Fashion (Sun): R Charlie's Angel (H. Dominguez/J. Bourdieu) - 83
*Darley OBS Sprint (fillies) (OTC): Banga Ridge (J. Pinchin/E. Trujillo) - 81
*Borderland Derby (Sun): Poni Colada (S. Asmussen/A. Juarez Jr.) - 81

*Darley OBS Sprint (colts) (OTC): Ben and the Twin (C. Autrey/E. Castro) - 78

[freddymo]

Hard to believe that Dreaming of Anna ran a 91 not the BSF mean all that much on turf.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Hard to believe that Dreaming of Anna ran a 91 not the BSF mean all that much on turf.

That one struck me as odd also.

[freddymo]

She galloped on an easy lead and the first half was real slow but 91 for her and the place horse is awful low historically.

I don't much about figs but it just seemed a bit light..What do I know?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

She galloped on an easy lead and the first half was real slow but 91 for her and the place horse is awful low historically.

I don't much about figs but it just seemed a bit light..What do I know?

It's pretty much the same number Lear's Princess earned in both her turf starts.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's pretty much the same number Lear's Princess earned in both her turf starts.

Don't destroy me as this is coming from off the top of my head...werent her to last longer races?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Don't destroy me as this is coming from off the top of my head...werent her to last longer races?

WTF?

Here's an idea......drop it. It's a meaningless conversation even if you knew what you were talking about......and you don't.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

WTF?

Here's an idea......drop it. It's a meaningless conversation even if you knew what you were talking about......and you don't.

Oh the love... I am calling DrugS up to help defend me... Now you will have to deal with a real killer.. Good luck charlie

[blackthroatedwind]

There's nothing to defend one way or another. It's an inane conversation. You're trying to split hairs on turf figs, which are essentially meaningless, and you have absolutely no understanding of them anyway.

We all know Lear's Princess is a nice horse who ran a solid race off the layoff. Whether she ran a 90, 95, or 100 you are still going to consider her a serious threat wherever she runs next. As for Dreaming of Anna, she's a nice horse, no worldbeater, but if she can set her own pace, against modest competition, she is usually dangerous. Would you feel differently about her if she ran a 98?

[freddymo]

I know they are basically meaningless and said as much..

I just thought 91 was weird looking.

I agree 100% with your assessment of DoA and the other mare. both are very good at doing what they can do.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I just thought 91 was weird looking.

Just out of curiosity, what figure do you think El Poppie deserves from Saturday?
He was the 20/1 winner of the $20K MSW run two races after the Endeavour (also at 8.5f on the turf).
His time was 1.5 seconds slower than Dreaming of Anna.

[Jax Cajun]

This is where a BSF can be mis-leading. If you get a chance, check out the replay of Eight Belles in the Martha Washingtong at OP. One of the most impressive sweeps around the turn I've ever seen. Might have been a bad field, but her last victory at FG was just as impressive and she got a 100 BSF. I think she's better than the Baffert filly - Indian Blessing. Larry Jones looking good with his girls.

[CSC]

Many turf races are run with pokey pace fractions anyway, never liked turf beyers as horses basically run 1/4 mile sprints. I prefer to look at who the horses are running against and their trips - good/bad.