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10-16-2007, 01:16 AM
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What's a detention barn?
I've heard this term before, but I really don't know what it is and was just curious. What goes on in a detention barn? Drug testing?
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10-16-2007, 07:33 AM
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A detention barn is a supervised holding area where horses are required to report a certain time before they are scheduled to race. In NY, it's 6 hours before. A horse running at 1pm needs to be in the detention barn by 7am for example. The theory behind it is that operations that are utilizing certain methods with their stock will be unable to reach horses in the barn to do whatever they may be doing to them to gain performance advantages. It doesn't necessarily work, but gives at least an outward appearence that something is being done to prevent shenanigans...
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10-16-2007, 02:17 PM
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It is the most ridiculous thing in racing. All about appearance. Racing doesn't really care too much about cheating. Just look at how guys like Biancone and Dutrow basically just laugh in the faces of the people that claim to keep the sport clean.
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10-16-2007, 03:52 PM
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10-16-2007, 04:02 PM
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I asked Nerud about them and he said, "They don't work. It's just a show. It's been tried and it doesn't do anything... They did it at Bowie... in 1936." 1936...
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10-16-2007, 04:23 PM
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Is J Nerud still alive? If he is, it would be interesting to hear what he thought of the "tartan surface" developed by 3M (W. McKnight), first installed at The Meadows and later at Hialeah (in lieu of a turf course, I believe)where it was a bust and at Windsor (I saw it there). Did you know that Tartan, the first synthetic surface, was first tested at Belmont and Saratoga in 1961? According to the attached areticle by S. Bergstein, it was Nerud who pushed for the development of the synthetic surface, back in 1959. He was ahead of his time. see p. 8 of the following for story and picture: http://canadiansportsman.ca/download...man_Sample.pdf
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10-16-2007, 04:47 PM
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John talked about Tartan on his first visit on ATR... I need to have him on again. He hasn't been on in too long...
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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10-16-2007, 10:49 PM
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theres more"top" names than that unfortunately. youre right tho most places and people dont care, hell they dont even care about the condition of some of these horses going to the gate every afternoon, another horse loading is more money for them
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