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Old 06-25-2007, 06:14 AM
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I know there are differences in pools but I thought I hit a nice one and it turned out to be an ok one.

8 horse field at Calder's race 4. The 6-1 M/L #2 gets bet down to 5/2.
The 8-1 M/L #7 goes off at 25-1 and I forget the M/L of #1 but he goes off 81-1.

there were a 2-1, 3-1, 5-1, 6-1 and a 44-1 off the board.

I bet 2 w/7-8 w/ALL

it comes in 2/7/1 and I see 5/2 over 25-1 and 80-1 with 4 short price horses off the board.

The stupid trifecta only pays $1,400. Of course I only had half. That's all I ever play is $1

I honestly think it paid a lot less than it should. I mean 25-1 & 80-1

at Churchill it comes in 8-1, 5-2 and 55-1 and pays something around $2k
I know 8-1 but Everyone had humorous gal :-)

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:56 AM
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Definitely a short price but

a.) 8 hore field
b.) elvis wheeled in trifecta costs $42
c.) ward/averill's horses are getting bet like crazy

either way, nice hit
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:47 PM
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I understand..

I have hit shorter odds with better payoffs

it really hurt

I only broke even for the weekend

I won that race by about the same margin I lost 30 others
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:08 PM
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I know there are differences in pools but I thought I hit a nice one and it turned out to be an ok one.

8 horse field at Calder's race 4. The 6-1 M/L #2 gets bet down to 5/2.
The 8-1 M/L #7 goes off at 25-1 and I forget the M/L of #1 but he goes off 81-1.

there were a 2-1, 3-1, 5-1, 6-1 and a 44-1 off the board.

I bet 2 w/7-8 w/ALL

it comes in 2/7/1 and I see 5/2 over 25-1 and 80-1 with 4 short price horses off the board.

The stupid trifecta only pays $1,400. Of course I only had half. That's all I ever play is $1

I honestly think it paid a lot less than it should. I mean 25-1 & 80-1

at Churchill it comes in 8-1, 5-2 and 55-1 and pays something around $2k
I know 8-1 but Everyone had humorous gal :-)

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That's Brutal!!! There were 61 tix for $1 sold for that number. That is quite a few winners that included bombs like that. 2 of the 3 longest shots on the board and in a race with no heavy favorite where the money is spread evenly, it's hard to believe that many winning tickets were sold. The key is the exacta is really short, only $85.60. That is why the triple came back the way it did, because the 7 was played more than his odds would indicate. Sorry Man.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:50 PM
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On the other hand, today's late Pick-4 at Calder had these four winners:

$13.80
$8.20
$6.00
$6.60

The parlay is $560.

The P-4 came back $2,785.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:01 PM
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Or how about this Pick 3 payout at Churchill last Sunday.. I was very surprised at how high it was. Here are the winning prices:

race 7) $12.40
race 8) $13.00
Race 9) $5.00 (Minister's Bid-- no secret here)

$2 payout: $698.00
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:37 PM
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On the other hand, today's late Pick-4 at Calder had these four winners:

$13.80
$8.20
$6.00
$6.60

The parlay is $560.

The P-4 came back $2,785.
I have trouble getting 3 winners in a row. The rolling pick 3s are killing me. I seem to be able to get the first 2 then get beat in the last leg which is the 2nd of my other pick 3 and the 1st leg of the other. No matter what the payouts. Get beat up and give up.

Churchill was as simple as betting the 2 horse. Hit a nice $56 pick 3 with all extremely short priced horses. But being a $2 better I didn't really apitalize on it.

Back to my Calder tri.. it was really just an exacta because the winner was a mortal lock. I think the other short priced horses were short because there are people that bet the M/L
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:38 AM
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On the other hand, today's late Pick-4 at Calder had these four winners:

$13.80
$8.20
$6.00
$6.60

The parlay is $560.

The P-4 came back $2,785.
I noticed that myself this morning on the train ride in, and said to myself that I need to spend a bit more time looking at those Calder cards when there are no "A" tracks running.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:42 AM
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Monmouth is another place where the PK4 pays a ton, in part because of the 15% takeout. The payoffs are often 250% of a parlay.

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Old 06-26-2007, 08:51 AM
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calder race 5 on sat. the 3 biggest longshots in a full field come 1-2-3, the three favorites come last, next to last, third from last. there is over $75,000 in the tri pool and the $1 tri pays around $9000. after the takeout is it possible that about maybe around 6 tickets were sold on this one. how many people could of had that as their lucky # ?
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:52 AM
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I noticed that myself this morning on the train ride in, and said to myself that I need to spend a bit more time looking at those Calder cards when there are no "A" tracks running.
calder is not an "a" track?
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:05 AM
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I noticed that myself this morning on the train ride in, and said to myself that I need to spend a bit more time looking at those Calder cards when there are no "A" tracks running.
For what it's worth, the late p-4 on Mondays at Calder is always worth a look. In general they handle $2.0 million on Mondays and $3.5 million on weekends. However, the late p-4 pool on Mondays is almost always $25-$30,000 compared to $15-$20,000 on weekends (unless it is a "special event" day like Summit, etc...). The early p-4's at Calder this time of year are also very playable but for another reason. They place the turf races early in the card because there is always a big chance of an afternoon shower this time of year and a lot of the turf races wash off. Some night before off-turf handicapping is very worthwhile.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:19 AM
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calder is not an "a" track?
I guess it depends on your definition of an "a" track. I think most would consider the value of the dailey purses the horses run for. According to the DRF purse value index, there are some 20 tracks that have higher purses. How many "a" tracks do you want?
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:35 AM
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just kidding, calder is my home track and believe me i know its not an A track
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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I guess it depends on your definition of an "a" track. I think most would consider the value of the dailey purses the horses run for. According to the DRF purse value index, there are some 20 tracks that have higher purses. How many "a" tracks do you want?
I was looking for my list to respond, but you've beat me to it. I don't even think Calder comes close to an "A" track. Do we consider places like Delaware and Monmouth "A" tracks? I don't, but they're nice tracks with decent stock running there, offering much larger purses than Calder. Their purses for MSW are almost on par with the NYRA's, Churchill's, and the Southern California tracks, but they are perceived to be lesser quality racing. Those would fall into the high "B" catagory IMO. Calder's MSW purses are less than even a Philly Park.
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