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11-19-2006, 04:38 PM
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Chopped Liver
This blog is so on-the-truth, "speaking truth to power, that I just had to share it.
http://carolynbaker.org/archives/whe...-chopped-liver 
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11-19-2006, 07:54 PM
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DTS: I don't think it's the same at all. One thing is apparent...America continued to buy or curry favor/influence for decades....no matter which party was in power(Dems for 40 straight yrs) We've done the same in Middle East. It was probably this fact that caused me to lose faith in the whole deal. Naturally, the little man took cheap shots at Bush,but that was expected!
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11-19-2006, 08:30 PM
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Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Lebanon, etc... the list continues. Anywhere we go its always Vietnam. Each situation has its own peculiarities and lessons. The entire Middle East is so complex that I would have to be very careful in how I related our current situation to anything.
But I do remember Democrats and Republicans being critical of the George the 41st when he did not go into Baghdad. And when the truth came out that Saddam in power meant that Iran will not run amok does not seem so strange now... Desert Storm of course seems to be forgotten. Go straight to Vietnam, do not pass Go, do not collect 200 dollars.
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#4
12-03-2006, 04:33 PM
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Negroponti (sp) explained the difference between Vietnam and Iraq quite well. He said that unlike Iraq, the major cities were under control. the commonality is seen in the last paragraph of this, if you take the time to read it. http://carolynbaker.org/archives/whe...-chopped-liver
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12-03-2006, 05:09 PM
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12-03-2006, 05:24 PM
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Your memory of history is far different from mine. Nixon was elected on his promise to end the Vietnam war. Unfortunately, he had no plan. So he came up with something called "Vietnamiztion". It only took four years and over 30,000 more American soldiers lives to demonstrate the fallacy. After he resigned in disgrace and Ford gave him a pardon, people were evacuated from the rooftop of the US Embassy with helicopters. Do you remember anything? "Those that ignore the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them." ps...I'll do a seach and show you a pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. You might be right, we had intel, but not intelligence. I don't blame the world...the jokers that sold the war to the gullible deserve the questions, and any and all answers they can fabricate.
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#7
12-03-2006, 05:43 PM
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Extremists like Carolyn Baker are just as intollerant as any KKK member or fascist. It is obvious from reading her articles that she despises Christians. She is so ignorant that it is incredible. Here is what she thinks that Christians think about non-Christians: "They are a force to be conquered, broken, imprisoned or killed." The funny thing is that I think this is a psychological defense mechanism known as "projection" on Baker's part. In another words, she is accusing Christians of wanting to do to her, what she actually wants to do to them. None of the Christians I know want to conquer, imprison, or kill non-believers. It is incredible that Baker would say this. Here is a quote from Baker: "The religious right of twenty-first century America is anti-American, inherently violent, and a cruel, tyrannical, punitive, force of death and destruction. In its mindset, adult human lives do not matter because the human condition itself is inherently evil resulting in eternal and everlasting punishment in hell unless its members are redeemed in a prescribed manner by the fundamentalist God/man/savior, Jesus Christ. Moreover, with an embarrassingly adolescent flamboyance, Dominionists shamelessly rape, pillage, and desecrate the earth because in the first place, their Bible has given them authority over all things human and in the second place, their "imminent" apocalyptic rapture, transporting them from the human "veil of tears" to live happily ever after in heaven, entitles them to do so. Meanwhile, we the unredeemed, the unbelievers, the poor, the feminists, the gay and lesbian, the disabled, the homeless, the mentally ill, the addicted, and those who are conscientiously following divergent spiritual paths of their choice, are suffering in the wake of Christian fundamentalism's devastation of the economy, the earth, and the human race. But this is what we deserve for not becoming born-again devotees of their Jesus. And we deserve even worse-to burn in hell for all of eternity. Hence, we are expendable, inconsequential, and a force to be conquered, broken, imprisoned, or killed." I have no interest in silencing people like Baker. Quite to the contrary, let her speak and let her speak loudly. The more she speaks, the bigger fool of herself she makes. The more she speaks, the more you realize how full of crap she is. But even a hate-filled fool such as Baker will find a few followers out there.
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#8
12-03-2006, 05:52 PM
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