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Old 02-22-2008, 12:04 PM
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Default Pretty Horsey Pictures
They have several.
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43750

Nice pic of Saratoga Russell
http://www.pedigreequery.com/saratoga+russell
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:21 PM
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Yet another infomercial.
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:23 PM
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what derby is that saratoga russell a contender for?

los al?

sunland?
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:05 PM
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To point out the obvious.....


.....the ridiculous thing about threads like this one is that West Point offers this silliness as an advertisement. That's fine. They are in business to sell themselves. However, why is that advertisement being reprinted here as though it is worthwhile information to be passed along?

Every 3YO nominated to the TC is a theoretical Derby contendor. Only an idiot would offer that list as such.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:13 PM
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What else is stunning, is how the constant 'updates' of West Point's horses gets merchandised as news by the trades. This is now the third 'piece' that has regurgetated West Point's press releases in recent weeks, with DRF, Blood-Horse and TTimes all having taken the bait. IEAH is another calling shots from this playbook, passing off the most mundane plans of their horses as 'news'.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:25 PM
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What else is stunning, is how the constant 'updates' of West Point's horses gets merchandised as news by the trades. This is now the third 'piece' that has regurgetated West Point's press releases in recent weeks, with DRF, Blood-Horse and TTimes all having taken the bait. IEAH is another calling shots from this playbook, passing off the most mundane plans of their horses as 'news'.

It is the responsibility of the publication whether or not to treat it as such. I don't blame any partnership for trying to get free publicity. You aparently don't either.....as you allow them to advertise here.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:30 PM
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It is the responsibility of the publication whether or not to treat it as such. I don't blame any partnership for trying to get free publicity. You aparently don't either.....as you allow them to advertise here.
True.. and I don't. But I don't get passing off simple press release materials as 'news', when there are dozens of stories about any number of "Derby Contenders" that can be filling the pages of the industry papers at this time.
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News by defintion is "a report of a recent event; intelligence; information." If West Point is giving you information or a report about their horses, then it is news by definition. Just because one does not view this as news doesn't mean it isn't newsworthy to someone out there. What is considered news by some, may not be news to others. What is and isn't news is purely up the the reader.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:05 PM
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I agree. The question, at least to me, is whether or not it is newsworthy.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:07 PM
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I agree. The question, at least to me, is whether or not it is newsworthy.
Is it really newsworthy that there is a snow advisory right now? I can look out my window and see that. At least from this press release I learn something, even if it is essentially useless information.
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I agree. The question, at least to me, is whether or not it is newsworthy.
Someone out there decided to print it and make it newsworthy. Now it is up to the reader to decide if it is news or not. For me this is not news. And if I owned a racehorse publication, I would not publish such a release. However, if West Point bought advertisement in my publication, I might be financially inclined to print such a release.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:11 PM
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Someone out there decided to print it and make it newsworthy. Now it is up to the reader to decide if it is news or not. For me this is not news. And if I owned a racehorse publication, I would not publish such a release. However, if West Point bought advertisement in my publication, I might be financially inclined to print such a release.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:50 PM
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Obviously there is a difference between an "advertisement" and "news" (newsworthy et al can open up the debate). However, when you are talking about these partnerships, syndicates, etc. -- a very large part of the equation is "exposure" (I'll use a generic term), and the target market for that exposure is the captive audience, potential buyers (of shares)/investors, etc. -- and that's here, the trade/industry journals, etc.

The link to the news story referenced here -- that would be news if it was "Pletcher's Derby contenders" and not West Point. Being that it's West Point, there has to be an element of "advertising" as it's their business model.

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HACKERCRAFT RETURNS TO GALLOPING

details on the 10 pm action news on channel 9
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details on the 10 pm action news on channel 9
Can you make sure they refer to him as Dirt Marthon contender Hacker Craft?
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Yet another infomercial.
West Point Throughbreds. The gold standard of racing partnerships.
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:14 AM
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I thought some might enjoy the conformation pic of Saratoga Russell. Here's a pic I spotted of Wheelaway that I think is a super pic. He seems to be superimposed on the background because I do not see a shadow.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-r...n=singlesearch

I'm not trying to promote anything but we cannot live in a vacuum either. There are some posters that enjoy a nice pic of a horse once in a while. Nothing more to it than that.
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:23 AM
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There are some posters that enjoy a nice pic of a horse once in a while. Nothing more to it than that.
Then why is the thread titled " West Point Derby Contenders " and not " Pretty Horsey Pictures? "
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Can you make sure they refer to him as Dirt Marthon contender Hacker Craft?
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