Are the phillie's insane?

[wiphan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3162819

Are u kiding me? 2 years $13 million for a guy who played part time in a somewhat subpar outfield in Milwaukee. He can't even sniff the ball when going against a left handed pitcher. Best of luck Philadelphia

[declansharbor]

I agree, it's a stretch. Compare it to the price that Rowand was demanding, and it makes sense.
There was no way in the world that we would have paid Aarow all that money, only to open up the wallet again for Ryan Howard. He would have seen Rowand's contract and said to himself, "If they are paying him x amount of dollars, then I should at least be worth XXXX amount of dollars." It wouldnt have been a good situation.
Besides, I like the man and all, for he ran through a wall for us, but the odds of Rowand having that type of year again is marginal. He is a true ball player for sure, but now that he got his payday, and is not playing in a contract year, I look for his stats to regress this upcoming season.
Only my biased opinion of course.
Cannon, thoughts on the signing of Jenkins??

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I agree, it's a stretch. Compare it to the price that Rowand was demanding, and it makes sense.
There was no way in the world that we would have paid Aarow all that money, only to open up the wallet again for Ryan Howard. He would have seen Rowand's contract and said to himself, "If they are paying him x amount of dollars, then I should at least be worth XXXX amount of dollars." It wouldnt have been a good situation.
Besides, I like the man and all, for he ran through a wall for us, but the odds of Rowand having that type of year again is marginal. He is a true ball player for sure, but now that he got his payday, and is not playing in a contract year, I look for his stats to regress this upcoming season.
Only my biased opinion of course.
Cannon, thoughts on the signing of Jenkins??

totall agree on Rowand, however signing Jenkins will not help your team. I have seen Geoff over the years and I was counting the days until his contract was over. He plays decent defense and has a good arm, but he will definitely strike out more times than not. I can't tell you how many times I watched him strike out with runners in scoring position and all he needed to do was make contact with the ball. I personally would not want him on the brewers this year for the league minimum. Just my very biased opinion

[whodey17]

I agree---this signing makes no sense

.215 vs lefties, .697 OBS vs lefties
.262 vs righties, .807 OBS vs righties

He is also horrible away from home

home - .289 and .891
away - .224 and .698

I cannot believe this man is worth $13 mm over two years. They should have given that money to Rowand. I would rather have Mike Cameron.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by wiphan

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3162819

Are u kiding me? 2 years $13 million for a guy who played part time in a somewhat subpar outfield in Milwaukee. He can't even sniff the ball when going against a left handed pitcher. Best of luck Philadelphia

We just have to face it that we live in an era in which even 33-year-old platoon corner outfielders coming off back-to-back mediocre seasons get multiyear deals. It only takes one out of 30 GMs to think a player is worth it.

[Cannon Shell]

It is not a bad deal for Philly at a fairly reasonable price. He actually is taking a bit of a pay cut if he doesnt get the 3rd year option picked up. He will presumably play RF in a semi platoon with J. Werth who hits lefties very well but cant hit righties which complements well with Jenkins. Jenkins is a pretty good outfielder for a team with a statue in left field. It is possible that he will be a late innings defensive replacement for Burrell on days he doesn't start. Plus he gives the Phils a strong left handed bat coming off the bench on days when Werth starts in right, which is something they were sorely lacking. They needed to add some pop with Victorino replacing Rowand full time in center and Jenkins going from a good hitters park to a very good hitters park should be fine if he is healthy. If he can give them .275 25 85 / .340 .450 with good defense which is pretty close to his norms he will be a good signing. $6.5 million for a 20 HR, 85 RBI guy with a good glove is a good deal. If he is a 14 HR 65 RBI guy it's not. I guess we will see.

Of course the Phils holes at 3b, Catcher, and the back end of the rotaion are still there.

They also signed C. Durbin to go along with JD Durbin, meaning they now have a monopoly on the pitching Durbins, which is not a positive sign.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Chuck can sell almost anything.I wonder how much you could sell the filly who won the 8th at Calder today for? That's a $3k(at auction) 2 year old filly with a 5 % jock up,and she exploded on them girls like a grenade.The Kip Deville people won't be able to resist......Then,after that,I got a singer inbred both sides of the tree with fighter blood.Just a bit cantankerous....that's a much tougher sell.

[pmayjr]

2 observations-

G. Jenkins, regardless of his overall from season to season, has spurts EVERY YEAR, where the guy just catches fire. Me and my friends call him the biggest "leightening-in-a-bottle" player in the league. He has usually a couple of 1-2 week spurts of just insanely good hitting numbers on a yearly basis.

But! He also gets hurt... every year. Just when you think he's realy startin to get his season goin, he'll get some injury that will put him on the DL. I gotta assume he's landed on the DL every year of his career (no joke). So you take the good with the bad for him. He's starting to get a little older, but he is a professional hitter. He';d be definately someone my beloved Twinkies could use...

One other note- It's tough to compare him to Rowand. At least defensively it is. Jenkins hasn't ever played CF for any team. They should've kept Rowand, but as far as saying Jenkins is Rowand's replacement, that's not right... Remember this, Rowand has had his health issues too (but he's also one of the hardest players in the league).

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by wiphan

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3162819

Are u kiding me? 2 years $13 million for a guy who played part time in a somewhat subpar outfield in Milwaukee. He can't even sniff the ball when going against a left handed pitcher. Best of luck Philadelphia

Not really considering the 4 years $48 mil for Carlos Silva that the Mariners spent.