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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I need to see links with proof that a woman making under $17k qualifies for "free" abortions at clinics in Illinois. Otherwise you're just making that up.

According to the PP webpage, cost ranges from $300 to $1700 for a first-trimester abortion in a clinic, and will be more expensive in a hospital.

In PA, in addition to the cost of transportation to a clinic over an hour's drive away, there is also a mandatory 24 hour waiting period, which means the mother is out two days of work, and must make the almost 150 mile round trip to Harrisburg twice.

If the daughter needed a tonsillectomy it's entirely possible Medicaid would have covered the procedure. But, as it was an abortion that was needed, there were no state funds available.

Here's the thing- it was incredibly irresponsible for the mother to administer those drugs without a doctor. But that's what is going to happen as reproductive rights continue to get slashed in this nation. Women will do what they did before it was legal; they will get abortions illegally, or mutilate themselves in an attempt to terminate the pregnancy. And some will die. And since the majority of women who get abortions already have at least one child, that will mean more minor children that will become wards of the state, and your tax dollars can pay for them.

Frankly, you're a man, and there's just no way for you comprehend the sheer scale of desperation experienced by a woman who is pregnant and does not want to be. It is outside your capability to experience, so you either can't comprehend, or refuse to comprehend that women will kill themselves in an effort to terminate a pregnancy. Safe, legal and inexpensive access to abortion is a public health necessity. Along, of course, with mandatory birth control education and cheap (preferably free) access to birth control for both men and women.

And of course, as this woman is being sent to jail, her daughter is now I imagine going to foster care, which is also going to cost the taxpayer.

when texas added their new rules, supposedly to make abortions 'safer', they've actually made it less so. there's a lot of women that have done, or will do exactly what the PA mother did. emergency room rates have gone up in the last few months due to people taking it upon themself to do what they used to be able to do under a doctors care.
thankfully judges have been able to quash some of these laws in texas and other states-but will it stand up on appeal?