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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord
Yikes.
Creative Cause beat I'll Have Another at 6.5 furlongs in the Best Pal at age 2. Only a nose seperated them at 9 furlongs in the Santa Anita Derby.
Basically -- uncommonly run classic distances are the only thing separating these two horses on actual racing ability. 99.5% of the races in this country are run at 9fs or less.
In terms of the other areas -- Creative Cause owns I'll Have Another. Comparing the pedigrees is like comparing a $100 steak to a McDouble from McDonald's.
In terms of looks -- I assume Creative Cause is better looking. Horses with route pedigree don't work 10.40 and sell for peanuts if they have looks.
And -- Doug O'Neill VS Harrington.
For someone to pay as much for I'll Have Another as they would for Creative Cause -- they'd have to be absolutely deranged.
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It is hard to say what impact the TC win would have because there hasn't been one in so long and the breeding game was far different then. Being out of KY keeps me a lot further out of the loop on these topics but you would think that the lack of noise on the stallion front concerning IHA would be a negative sign for his stallion career prospects in terms of a mega deal. However like i said I havent heard anything but that desnt mean something isnt brewing.
Creative Cause is going to stand somewhere for 15k unless he pads his resume further.
IHA is a good looking, correct horse. I saw him at OBS and liked him a lot but thought he would bring more than my budget would allow. Barry Eiserman thought he would bring between 30-50 (I think reserve was 19900 or 29900, can't remember) and I thought he was being pessimistic at 30, didnt think he would bring less than 50. I have no idea what CC looks like. I have to say that I honestly don't know that the majority of breeders even look at the stallions very closely anymore. Seems as though they would rather breed for high marks on paper, nicks and such which may have something to do with the ability of surgeons to straighten legs out as foals. Unless a horse has drastically bad conformation I don't think it will hurt them too much