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Old 04-18-2012, 09:31 PM
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You can believe what you want, but since I do this for a living, I can tell with certainty that the numbers I provided for maidens almost guarantee the maidens without lasix are at a disadvantage. The betting public isn't dumb. They know the good trainers, and which horses are working good, and which are bred to win early. In a sample as large as I'm talking, all those things even out between the Lasix and non-Lasix horses. The difference is return is staggering. Remember, I'm not talking win percentage, I'm talking how the horses perform in relation to how they were bet.

With the Euro horses, we do have a baseline, and the results are strikingly similar. I also mentioned the book "Champions" where you can find plenty of examples. I've looked it up in the past, and I'm not going to do it again to try to prove a point. It is there for anyone bothering to look. You just have to do it with the blinkers off.

I honestly don't care one way or the other about Lasix. There are way bigger problems in the game. However, in my opinion, denying it is a performance enhancer is about as silly as you make all the arguments for banning it appear to be, and probably rightfully so. Why is it banned for human competitors, by the way? I'm curious of your take on that.

I have to ask, do you still think Shane Battier is a better player than Rudy Gay? (You don't have to answer, we all know that was ridiculous, and it is off topic)
Of course the term performance enhancer in terms of drugs in racing has always referred to illegal drugs that gave the horse using it an unfair edge over the other competitors, not something that is reported to the public and regulated but you knew that. Declaring lasix a performance enhancer is simply an attempt to attach a morality issue to its use.

I dont recall saying that Battier was better but that his loss might be bigger to the team than when they lost Gay last year and did better without him.

As for lasix being banned in human competition what sport are you referring to? It isnt banned in boxing.
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