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Old 12-15-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt View Post
Antitrust, you do realize that stats like ERA+ are attempting to quantify exactly what you are saying? And based on the adjusted stats (read: adjusted for park/league factors, etc.), Halladay isn't in Maddux's league, and isn't likely to ever get there. Maddux had six seasons with ERA+ numbers higher than Halladay's 2009 season, and those seasons came in the steroid hey-day of the early 1990's. You question whether or not Halladay would have similar numbers to Maddux during his peak years; I question whether Halladay would have had the same success pitching against a bunch of guys on the cream and the clear for the majority of his career.

Of course, that isn't to say Halladay's not a Hall of Famer - he is - but he's unlikely to have career value on the same par as Maddux when all is said and done.
if that is the case... hopefully he'll have more hardware.

If Halladay does what he did this past year for the next 4 years, there career value will be on a very similar par.

Doc Halladay is still in the midst of his prime and is on a very good baseball team. poor guy.. been the best pitcher in baseball the past decade and had to spend it on the Blue Jays.
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Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
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