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					Originally Posted by  Crown@club
					 
				 
				........................Yrs.........W-L.........ERA.......CG........SHO........	Whip 
Don Sutton	23.....324-256......	3.26......	178.......	58.........	1.1425 
Catfish Hunter	15.....224-166......	3.26......	181.......	42.........	1.1342 
Jim Bunning	17.....224-184......	3.27......	151.......	40.........	1.1789 
Clark Griffith 	21.....237-146......	3.31......	337.......	22.........	1.3127 
Fergie Jenkins	19.....284-226......	3.34......	267.......	49.........	1.1419 
Lefty Gomez 	14.....189-102......	3.34......	173.......	28.........	1.3524 
Phil Niekro 	24.....318-274......	3.35......	245.......	45.........	1.2681 
Robin Roberts 	19.....286-245......	3.41......	305.......	45.........	1.1697 
Burleigh Grimes 	19.....270-212......	3.53......	314.......	35.........	1.3653 
Early Wynn 	23.....300-244......	3.54......	290.......	49.........	1.3291 
Waite Hoyt 	21.....237-182......	3.59......	226.......	26.........	1.3397 
Jesse Haines	19.....210-158......	3.64......	208.......	24.........	1.3498 
Ted Lyons 	21.....260-230......	3.67......	356.......	27.........	1.3482 
Red Ruffing HOF	22.....273-225......	3.8........	335.......	45.........	1.3409 
 
Took Drysdale and Perry out as I figure they are better pitchers.  I would put Catfish on par with Sutton.  Better than the POS Bunning.  Better than Jenkins, Niekro, Robin Roberts. 
 
But I look at this and wonder how in the heck guys like Clark Griffith, Lefty Gomez, Burleigh Grimes, Waite Hoyt, Jessie Haines, Ted Lyons and Red Ruffing are in the HOF? 
 
I guess Early Wynn is in because of the magical number of 300 Wins. 
			
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 I dont know why you would think Drysdale and Perry were so much better. Drysdale pitched right in the middle of the teeth of the best pitchers era in 60 years and his numbers are hardly better than a lot of these guys even with that. Perry had a lot of good years abut had a lot of pretty average years as well.