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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Since you believe that he "doesn't get it done," please name one or two bad rides that you believe him to have hung up on one of the big days.
If your view of him is that "he's not bad," please tell us who the "good" riders are. I suspect that's going to be an awfully short list.
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you guys are missing my point - to me ramon is a stat piler , he wins a lot of races , he wins a lot of stakes races , he wins a lot of racing titles but to be remembered as one of the all time greats he is going to have to prove it on the big days - to date he has not done this , you can talk about him not getting horse until the cows come home , he is 34 this year and still has a lot of years ahead of him where he can win those big races , but , let's not put him in any elite category until he proves it on BC day and in the TC races ----- aren't those races the biggest races every year???
you want to be the top jock in the country fine , but , win on the big days
and i'll shut up
why is it that this board can bash the best trainer in the country regurarly- todd pletcher for not winning derby's , more tc races , more bc races and the best jock according to you experts here can't get bashed for the same failure? it's not like it's only been a year or two , he has been getting mounts for some time now in the big races
i don't get it - if todd can be bashed on here for his lack of production in the tc and bc , why can't ramon be as well ???