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Originally Posted by gales0678
first off last year doesn't mean anything this year. your starting pitching was much better last year. if you put rivera on the rockies instead of street explain to me how you would have won against them this year .... you would have lost simple as that in the 1st round.... broxton gave away game 4 this year in the nlcs , rivera would not have , mentally the philies own the dodgers as posted here by someone who watches 162 la dodger games .....so who did the beat ? they beat the rockies closer 2 x in colorado , they beat a team that doesn't believe they can beat them ..... now the play a team that punches back and has a closer who can finish and where are they ....down 3-1
take nothing away from last year's philly team but this team is not as good , the NL east stunk this year , the mets packed it in in June , the braves and marlins were too young to compete , they caught a team that should have beat them but couldn't finish games and the beat a mentally fragile LA team who they dominate
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I talk crap on the Yankees cause I absolutely hate them. But I'll say stuff like cheater and A-fraud, but wont just make up stuff to make them look bad.
You are just making stuff up. Our starting pitching has been equal to last year minus Cole Hamels. Blanton is the same Blanton he was last year. Happ is a new guy who was BETTER than Myers last year. Pedro came in and did a WONDERFUL job. Cliff Lee.. well he's Cliff Lee. Jamie Moyer was the same last year.. gave up runs but won games because of the run support we gave him.
So Hamels is the only part of our starting pitching that has really suffered.
But we added a J.A Happ, Pedro Martinez and a Clifford Lee. That outweighs a Hamels breakdown.
And there is only one Mariano Rivera in the league. So to say "if Rivera was on the Rox or the Dodgers the PHils would have lost" is as much BULLSHIT as me saying if Rivera was a Philly we would be crushing NY right now.
Try to know what you are talking about before you talk. It may help your arguements. So far its turned out that the Yankee's are the best team in baseball and better than the Phillies.
But for the past 326 games the Phillies have been the best NL team hands freaking down.
Its funny how all the commentators on the planet said "wow its actually a WS featuring the best two teams" (not that the speaking heads really know anything) and you throw out this garbage.. come on now gales.