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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Thinking things through is one thing. I support that, but setting up that straw man in response to my post was of course necessary. Shoving it through because you have the votes and not thinking about it are two different things...but of course you knew that already.. Anything the Dems want, they can basically pass, but instead they're busy capitulating at every turn because they're pathetic and afraid of a bunch of loudmouths.
But all this stupid **** about wanting Republican votes for things and wanting to work together, when Republicans have indicated they have no interest at all in working with him on anything (unless working with him means getting everything they want, exactly how they want it, which defeats the point of them losing the last election in the first place) is going to ensure that he fails...just like he's doing now. At this rate, he's certainly not going to get voted out of office based on his policies, since he's not enacting any of them because he's too busy caving on EVERYthing they want. He'll get voted out because he did NOTHING in four years. And that will be his fault.
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Brian he campaigned as a centerist. While that was basically a put on, he is a liberal in just about every sense of the word, if he were to swing far left now he would doom Democrats for years. His policies are going to be screwed up because the guy is simply not a leader. He has consistently let the idiots of the party (Pelosi and Reid) run the show for him. The guy was a popular personality elected, not some great poitician. He has never really accomplished much before other than get elected. That continues. You are mad because you are a far left liberal who thought that having another liberal on top of the two stooges would mean nirvanna for your side. But everyone forgot that the reason that Obama was elected was anger against Bush and the fact that Obama SAID he would be this great unifier who would bring people together. You can blame the GOP for opposing his agenda but he came in with the "we won" attitude and never made any real attempt to work accross the aisle. Obama let Pelosi run the stimlus show and lost control by doing so. The Democratic party is a mess because Obama cant bring them togther. You want something passed, bite the bullet and tone down the liberal rhetoric, come to the table in the middle and maybe something gets done. Otherwise the Dems are handing over everything to the other side and will regret that for years. The reason that the health care thing is a mess is because the far left liberals who represent about 10% of the country, wont back down.