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Originally Posted by Lbigdog77
Ironhorse - Weak as could be, thank you please.
Ky Derby winner - not there. Preakness winner - not there.
4th place finisher in the Ky Derby and entry in the Belmont - a maiden - did you know this or do you have a different angle?
3rd place finisher in the Preakness and entry in the Belmont - a MAIDEN - did you know this or do you have a different angle?
That's A Given won a 1 1/8 race at Belmont under a hand ride in almost the identical time as Sunriver's Peter Pan win (under a strong whipping).
Who are your strong, quality contenders? Please enlighten me. Lansdon
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You are missing my point. Despite the fact that Barbaro and Bernardini are not running there still are some good horses running in here. They also have a good solid foundation for this race. I disagree with you that they are all weak. I do agree that some in here seem to be reaching.
Bluegrass Cat, Deputy Glitters, Jazil, Steppenwolfer, Sunriver and Bob & John seem to be the stronger horses.
I have a hard time using your horses race in comparison to Sunriver for two reasons. Different day and maiden field vs. a stakes field.