[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

No, what you stated clearly was that Singspiel did not deserve the Turf eclipse because he never won in the US (nor did Pilsudski for that matter). However, unlike Pilsudski (whom Singspiel lit up in England earlier in the year), Singspiel could at least claim more than one start in North America (not to be confused with the Pacific Rim), with a record of one win, one second in two Grade 1 starts (one of which being the all-important BC Turf).

Not particularly a strong hand, but when you consider the closest US-based horse finish in that year's BC Turf was the older mare (and ex-Euro) Windsharp, and further still down to 6th to find a male (and ex-Euro) Talloires, it's not a stretch to see why voters were hesitant to give it to some underachieving patriot.

For those keeping score, the All-American Awad was next closest homer, finishing 9th. Diplomatic Jet beat two horses, one of whom was Rick's Natural Star.

Next.

Do you make this up? Where do you get that I've EVER said he didn't deserve it? I've never once said that. My only intention for ever bringing up this situation is when people suggest that foreign records do not count when it comes to balloting for the Eclipse awards. They act like only records compiled in the U.S count and I only point out that plenty of horses over the past have been awarded championships based on records in races won outside of this country, Singspiel being the best example. Personally, I am in favor of factoring in foreign records and if I had a vote in 1996, I would have voted for Singspiel also.