[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why the hate for Jazil?

Let's recount his resume....lost by a half length in a NW1X to Corinthian.....second in the Wood Memorial.....fourth in the Kentucky Derby.....won the Belmont.

Sounds OK to me.

No, he's not a world beater by any stretch of the imagination but he's also a far more accomplished animal than recent Belmont winners Commendable and Sarava. Bringing up that he won the Belmont while eligible for a NW1X is to completely ignore the realities of the current Triple Crown preps. Do I think it's great for racing that conditional allowances have suffered in the " rush-rush " approach with 3YOs nowadays? No, I don't. And I don't think it is overall great for the game and is most likely one of the reasons horses don't stay healthy for long anymore. However, it is what it is, and Jazil, as a racehorse, should not be discredited because of this.

A voice of reason. I think u have discussed horses with me long enough to know where I am coming from with this. This wasn't about Jazil, per se. It could have easily been Sarava or Commendable. It was about the state of the game, as u say, it is what it is. It's about a horse that's not done much of anything of note in his career, other than winning a Classic race, being givin credit for being more. When I hear things about how we should happy he's still in training, it kills me. Why should we be? In a way, I could be doing this same thing while talking about horses like Bernardini, Ghostzapper, Smarty Jones, Discreet Cat, etc. In those cases, I'm guilty myself of some of the same things I'm bothered by with those that talk about Jazil. The way the game is today, we have had to lower our standards so that we can have something to believe in. In reality, even though I call him a great horse, calling Discreet Cat a great horse lessens the accomplishments of the actual real great horses, horses like Bid and Dr Fager and Affirmed. That's how I feel about this situation with Jazil. It's a personal thing but I want to feel like our best races are won by our best horses. When I look back in the history books and see the names of the horses that have won our Kentucky Derby, our Belmont Stakes, our Travers, JCGC, SA Hcp....I want to know those were the best horses we had in those years. Not some horse that just happened to be the best horse that day of a bunch of bad ones.

Maybe everyone else is willing to just accept it the way it is now and be happy about it. Be happy that we are able to see Jazil come back. Be happy to see the 4-5 race "campaigns" that make up the seasons for top horses nowdays. Like I said, I'm guilty of it myself to an extent. So I guess if people want to be happy with this stuff, that's their right. I want better. I want the game to be better than this.