Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I guess the only way Einstein has any breeding value is if he gets a reasonable Graded Stakes victory but his dirt wins are in off-the turf races and he is unlikely to be competitive in any even mildly decent dirt races.

Frankly, I am skeptical about him winning anything from here on out, as his turf stakes win at Gulfstream was the result of loafing on the lead in an absurdly slow pace. His fourth to English Channel and Cacique at Churchill was decent but the layoff and subsequent so-so return have me highly dubious of his future chances. I know he had some traffic that day but I was not impressed at all with his race.