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					Originally Posted by Easy Goer Otis  MSW to G1:
 Since Jan 1, 2018, horses going from a Maiden Special Weight race to a Grade 1 stake (on the dirt) are 11 for 95 (12%) with an*ROI of -33%.
 
 Avg Odds: 21.70
 Avg Odds winners: 4.76
 Avg finish: 4.38
 
 Highest priced winners:
 
 Sippican Harbor (16-1)
 Mind Control (10-1)
 Maxfield (6-1)
 
 Trainers who have done it more than once:
 
 Chad Brown (2 for 6, +$0.80)
 S. Asmussen (2 for 7, +$2.10)
 Bob Baffert (2 for 10, -$7.20)
 
 MSW to G3:
 
 Since Jan 1, 2018, horses going from a Maiden Special Weight race to a Grade 3 stake (on the dirt) are 22 for 161 (14%) with an*ROI of -39%.
 
 Avg Odds: 21.60
 Avg Odds winners: 3.45
 Avg finish: 4.83
 
 Highest priced winners:
 
 Cairo Cat (17-1)
 Independence Hall (10-1)
 Lombo (9-1)
 Max Player (5-1)
 
 Trainers who have done it more than once:
 
 Bob Baffert (3 for 6, $0.00)
 Mark Casse (2 for 15, -$16.40)
 
 
 While the average odds and average finish are virtually identical across all three Graded Stake levels, only the move to a G2 has been profitable over the past 25 months.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Otis
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 Thanks a bunch for posting the additional info!
I was hoping for something more promising than a -39% ROI for the Grade 3's.   It's a fine line between G2 and G3.    While it's possible there's something special about MSW-to-G2 that doesn't apply to MSW-to-G3 or MSW-to-G1, the complete lack of success with those moves makes it seem likely that the MSW-to-G2 result is a temporary aberration.
Thanks again for posting it.
Dunbar